Edwards Family - Marriage of Charles & Ellenor

[wrjones]

Clwyd FHS have transcibed the MIs for Marchwiel St Marcella.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[wilcoxon]

Have  you got childrens birth years from St Marcella`s registers. ?

Marraiges
North Wales Chronicle Thursday Nov 27 1851
On 20th inst at Parish Church Stockport John Edwards tea dealer Liverpool third son of Mr Charles Edwards, Sontley Wrexham to Frances Amelia eldest daughter of John Foster esq of Manchester.

Liverpool Mercury Friday Aug 25 1854 Deaths.
August 18 , Kate infant daughter of Mr John Edwards tea dealer at Renshaw Street .

Liverpool Mercury Friday Sept 8th 1854. Deaths.
Sept 6th in Renshaw Street aged 28 the wife of Mr John Edwards, tea dealer.

North Wales Chronicle Saturday Dec 10 1853
1st inst at Marchwiel, Mr Alfred Iron to Susannah, fourth daughter of Charles Edwards of Sontley near Wrexham.

Births, Deaths, Marriages and Obituaries .
The Era (London, England), Sunday, December 11, 1853
This paper has the marriage of Alfred Iron and Susannah as taking place at Wrexham Church on the 1st.
Also her father is John Edwards  farmer of Sontley, all of Wrexham.
North Wales BMD`s confirm it as Marchwiel.

In 1871/81 George Edwards is living with Thomas Cheetham , he is his brother in law. Thomas married Anne Edwards in 1839 at St Marcella Marchwiel.
Ann is showing as born in c 1819 in Marchwiel in 1851
This is the will of his father John.
John Cheetham will 1844 farmer Marchwiel
One of the witnesses is Charles Edwards. His signature is on image 4
http://hdl.handle.net/10107/488318

This one is John Cheethams Dad.
Charles Cheetham will 1828 , Marchwiel farmer.
http://hdl.handle.net/10107/897963

1851 HO107; Piece: 2502; Folio: 586; Page: 5 all b Marchwiel
Thomas Cheatham 38
Ann Cheatham 32
John Cheatham 8
Eleanor Cheatham 7
Charles Cheatham 4

http://www.openchurchnetwork.co.uk/graveyard.asp
It seems the grave you found is on here, but this site is far from complete.


The Wrexham Advertiser,Saturday, March 26, 1864;
Death 19th inst Eleanor youngest daughter of the late Mr Edwards of Sontley

The Wrexham Advertiser, Saturday, June 18, 1864;
Deaths
9th June. Mrs Eleanor Edwards aged 74 at Sontley .

[poppyfields]

Big thanks for all the help so far  your all great at locating people

[poppyfields]

Can i ask where you got the Wills for the Cheetham family members?

is there anyway of searching for any Edwards family i.e. Charles...where would  i look?

Thanks

[wilcoxon]

http://www.llgc.org.uk/index.php?id=searcharchivaldatabases.

Wills only go up to 1858.
Ancestry probate index starts at 1861, so there is a gap .

A bit more on the family from another thread.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,396248.msg2673341.html

[wilcoxon]

Jill Rose has looked for a marriage , but drawn  a blank locally.
 I`ll just copy her reply to me so you all can see.
It seems George and Elizabeth were not baptised at Marchwiel
266 Marchwiel Vol 4 Baptisms & Burials 1813-1837, Marriages 1814-1837

` 7 Feb 1823 bap/o Charles s/o Charles (farmer) & Ellen, Sontley
 23 May 1824 bap/o John s/o Charles (farmer) & Eleanor, Sontley Lodge
 30 Oct 1825 bap/o Susanna d/o Charles (farmer) & Ellen, Lodge Farm
 14 Oct 1827 bap/o Ellen d/o Charles (farmer) & Ellen, Lodge
17 May 1829 bap/o Ellis William s/o Charles (farmer) & Eleanor, Sontley lodge
I drew a blank with the marriage of Charles and Ellenor
c.1816 in Marchwiel, Llangollen, Overton, Ruabon, Wrexham
& Holt.  Not able to check Erbistock, Bangor-on-Dee and
Gresford because the transcriptions finish at 1812 so that
would mean a visit to one of the Record Offices.
 
There are quite a lot of Bryngolly's but not spelt like that.
My first find was Bryn Golau nr Pontypridd in Mid. Glam,
the next Bryn Goleu a cairn near Lampeter, Ceredigion.
Then there is Bryn Golau in Llantysilio and another in
Gwyddelwern, and finally Bryn Goleu on the lower part
of the Horseshoe Pass Road from Llangollen. Probably
there are others too.
 
Next step was to look at the 1851 census. 
There I found Ellenor was said to be born in either Llandrillo
or Llantysilio - it is a bit difficult to read.
 
So on the assumption that it is the Bryn Goleu near
Llantysilio where George, Ann & Elizabeth were
born, and also Ellenor married, it could be worth a look at
the Llantysilio registers but again the transcriptions
are only up to 1812 at the moment.`
 

[poppyfields]

Thanks for the info 

[Dolly_007]

Hi ,

Am bookmarking so I can keep up !  .

Cheers
Dolly.

[wilcoxon]

A little more, but we still don`t know for sure these are the parents of Charles.

 All entries at Marchwiel
Marriages
22 Jan 1776 Ellis EDWARDS & John CROSS wits. at mar. by Banns of  Hugh JONES (x) wdr. & Martha MORRIS (x) sp., both otp

 8 May 1779 mar. by Lic. of Ellis EDWARDS & Susanna CHATHAM (sig: CHEETHAM) Wits: Charles CHEETHAM, John CROSS
                                                 
3 Apr 1780 bap/o John s/o Ellis & Susan
24 Sep 1782 bap/o James s/o Ellis & Susan
27 Feb 1784 bap/o William s/o Ellia & Susan
27 May 1807 bur/o Ellis