Edwards Family - Marriage of Charles & Ellenor

[poppyfields]

Hello,  I have posted on the website before and had some help on my family tree from you lovely people....

I am still searching for a marriage of Charles Edwards and Ellenor (surname unknown).

Ellenor was born in Llandrillo abt 1792 and I have her on the 1851 and 1861 cencus abode Sontley lodge Farm, Marchwiel. 

Charles Edwards is her husband born abt 1785 Overton, but I have found a baptism of a Charles Edwards 1786 on family search website at Hanmer Church, parents Ellis and Susanna Edwards...I am unsure if this is the correct Charles baptism as he did call 2 of his children Ellis and Susanna which is a popular thing to call children after parents.

Also found a death of Sarah Edwards d.o.d 1786 with same parents Ellis and Susanna and when i looked on the wrexham graveyard search website it mentions Ellis and Susanna are her parents too and they lived in Halghton village.
 
I would like information on Charles and Elleanor's wedding.  I know from a previous post's reply  they did not marry in Marchwiel or Overton...maybe they married in the Llandrillo region or Hanmer.

I would imagine they married between 1810 - 1816 as their first Son George is born 1816.

Any help on this topic would be lovely or any info on Charles baptism at Hanmer Church, would like to know if Charles had any siblings with same parents Ellis and Susanna.

Thank You 

[wrjones]

Due to the fire at Hanmer Church in 1889 there are no Marriage records available for Hanmer between the years of 1787 and 1813.See the following from Genuki;
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/FLN/Hanmer/index.html

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[poppyfields]

Thanks for that information, what a shame.  Apart from free bmd and ancestry and family search are there any other free websites to search for marriages/deaths/births before 1837 would you know?

[wrjones]

As far as the Baptisms of Charles and Eleanor's children are concerned it would appear that most of them will be included in the Marchwiel Parish Registers-Baptisms 1813-1837.Whether or not the mother's maiden name would be included is very much open to question!Someone on this Site may have the booklet transcribed by Clwyd FHS.

There would appear very little online for the area concerned,well nothing that I have noticed since I posted my first reply!

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[hiraeth]

Thanks for that information, what a shame.  Apart from free bmd and ancestry and family search are there any other free websites to search for marriages/deaths/births before 1837 would you know?

Hi poppyfields

Have you tried Freereg?  There are some Flintshire records on there.

Heather

[wrjones]

It is perhaps worth noting that as well as the children of Charles and Eleanor Edwards showing in 1851 that  there was at least one other child.George born c 1817 is showing as a brother-in-law in 1871 of a Thomas Cheetham given as born in Marchwiel in c 1813 a widower.
RG10/5651/191/1.

In 1861 Thomas is shown as married to an Ann born in Marchwiel in c 1819.
RG9/4279/60/10.

On North Wales BMD there is a probable marriage in 1839 at Marchwiel St Marcella of a Thomas Cheetham and an Ann Edwards.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[poppyfields]

Hi

Yes I have George in the family tree.  He never married and must have lived with Thomas Cheetham when Ann died.  On the cencus of George living with Thomas Cheetham, George is noted down as an imbecile!?!

Not sure where or when George died but I visited Marchwiel church over the weekend and found Ann Cheetham & Thomas Cheetham graves which was interesting.

Thanks :-)

[wrjones]

There is a death of a George Edwards given in the Jan/Feb/Mar quarter of 1891 in the Wrexham District,Volume 11b,Page 199.He is given as born in c 1818.I've only found George up to the 1881 Census.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[poppyfields]

Yes I only have George up to 1891 so maybe this record is his...how do you trace graves where people are buried, would you know?

Thanks