Foundling Hospital, Little James St

[royam]

Im related to Henry Flenley. He was a mariner can anyone tell me which ship he came to Australia on ,and if possiable the rank he held in the navy. thanks ;

[flennerz]

Hi there,

There are a few Henry Flenleys in the tree of which I'm also one part; do you have birth/death date?

I might not be able to help but if I can, I most definitely will!

Matt

[Pastmagic]

The schoolmaster's son maybe:

One son, Henry b. Dublin

Henry Michael FLENLEY
gender:   Male
birth:   1819 Apr 29
Dublin, Ireland
christening:   1819 May 23
Dublin, Ireland
death:   1872 Jun 29
Tarnagulla, Victoria, Australia
burial:   1872 Jul 2
Tarnagulla, Victoria, Australia
afn:    HJ06-B5
wife   Mary Anne ARDERN
marriage:   1848 Oct 28
St. Michael's Toxteth, Walton-On-The-Hill, Lancaster,




From familysearch.org (Remember, this is a record someone sent in, it is not as yet verified.) Think this may be the same WHF as in:

Index to the Captains Registers of Lloyd’s of London (Guildhall Library Ms 18567)

FLENLY, William Henry b. Dublin 1817 C1681 Liverpool 1849 
vol. 5 1852-1864, 1866, 1869-1872

I don't think these are on line, only the indexes, I may be wrong there.

A very good  source for his records if you can establish he is your Mariner Ancestor.

Trove gives a Captain Flenly commanding a ship: The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842-1954)   <Monday 8 December 1856> See newspaper clip below:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/

Some Records of Mariners in Austriala are on
http://pandora.nla.gov.au/tep/45520

For example:
http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1854/03/052arg.htm

Gives List for probably the same chap as
                                      ARGONAUT
OF LIVERPOOL, WM. HENRY FLENLEY, MASTER, BURTHEN 1237 TONS
FROM THE PORT OF LIVERPOOL TO SYDNEY, NEW SOUTH WALES, 11TH MARCH 1854

i just did a quick search, there are more records around.

Otherwise you could try posting on the  Rootschat Australia Board to find out about ships lists etc.
 

[royam]

This information was is a family bible written in 1779. The first William born in1780 was a Governor of the foundling home and also a couch maker. He did marry Elizabeth by a Charles McCarthy Minister.
William and Elizabeth had 14 children.
William John and Fredick were twins but Frederick dies 1810.
My direct ancestor was Henry Michael. He was a 3rd officer in the British Merchant Navy.being discharged in 1854 28Th March left for Australia on the 24th May on the SS Bloomer with three other families Ashton, Cook, Parker.
Henry worked in theGladstone gold mines in 1867 [this information come from his marriage certificate held by his son Frank]Henry had a newsagency in 1886.
Henry and Mary Anne Arden had 7 children My GGf was one of his children

[royam]

The Henry Michael was born 1819.. Hope all this information is of help to you.
Romay

[flennerz]

Brilliant - I will update my tree and will search out whatever I can!

[cankita]

I have just started looking into my family history again after doing some research about 10 years ago. My mother was a Flenley.

I have a family tree that my mother gave me many years ago before I was interested in family history and, unfortunately, I never asked her where she got it from and she died some time back. It was produced in pre-internet days and must therefore have been done with some prior family knowledge or by good, old-fashioned hand research.

The tree effectively starts with William Flenley Snr. b. 1754 as follows

William Flenley Snr = 1st Wife (died)

Son- William 1st B. 1/11/1780

2nd m. Sarah

Eliza Mary Anne b. 23/9/1787
John Christopher b. 26/4/1789
Christopher Frederick b. 8/8/1790
Charles James b. 1792 (died in infancy)
Charles James b. 1804

It then goes on to show the direct line of descent to my mother from Christopher Frederick with just a couple of sidelines. I have been able to extend these much further but what is, perhaps, more interesting is the very start of the tree which is as follows

Jeremiah Quinton-Dick-Flanaghan

                         |

           William Flenley Snr

On the same line is the note -

Came from Ireland to Liverpool & changed his name to Flenley
                                                                 
                                                                                    |

                                                                        ? Flenley (Liverpool)

I assume that Jeremiah Quinton-Dick-Flanagan is the direct ancestor (? father) of William Snr and that the ? Flenley (Liverpool) reference indicates that there are other descendants in Liverpool although it is not clear. It could also mean that there were other Flenleys in Liverpool as ancestors of William Snr but there is a descendant line directly from Jeremiah Quinton-Dick-Flanagan to William Snr. I am not sure either whether Quinton-Dick-Flanagan is a hyphenated surname (seems unlikely unless he was gentry!) or whether it means Flanagan was descended from Dick who was descended from Jeremiah Quinton or the other way round. Again it seems unlikely that there would be so many changes of surname. It could even be three generations - Jeremiah Quinton Flanagan, Dick Flanagan, ? Flanagan.

If anyone can take this further back or give me some clues about how to research the Irish connection I would be most grateful.


                                                                                             

[flennerz]

This is fantastic stuff! We have had a family legend about the "changing name" story but I've never actually heard of it being written down somewhere.

I have good news for you - I have heard of Jeremiah Q Flenley, although the Dick Flanaghan part is new and worthy of investigation.

I have found one other Flenley before 1754 - another William, born 1728 in the then-Kingdom of Ireland - and evidence of other Flenleys in Ireland - though quite how this fits with the story of the name change I don't know. Perhaps they are from the Flenleys who went back to Ireland in the 1800s?

Be very keen to exchange trees!

On the Liverpool note there are still many Flenleys there, in fact I'm friends with lots of them (well, Facebook friends!). Are you on Facebook at all?

Matt

[cankita]

There is a Jeremiah Quinton Flenley in the IGI who married Ann Smith 23rd July 1817 at St. Andrews, London. He has to be related since the original William Flenley b. 1754 was buried in St. Andrews in 1817 (aged 63) and  William's son Charles was christened at St. Andrews but that would make Jeremiah William's son or grandson (or maybe nephew) rather than a forebear. That is the only reference I have found to Jeremiah Quinton and I haven't been able to tie him to the family so I'm reluctant to put him in as guesswork. Jeremiah could, of course, be William's son and could have been named after his grandfather but, again, that's just speculation at the moment.

I am aware of the Liverpool families but have never been able to tie them directly to mine. It would seem that William (b. 1754) moved down to London pretty soon after arriving in England and that is where my family begins. Maybe the Liverpool Flenleys come from William's first son William (b, 1780)?

The next step is to exchange trees and see where we are. Is there any way on here to exchange email addresses without it being public?

Incidentally, as you are probably aware, Flenley is an incredibly rare name. I recently checked the GRO (and some overseas births) and found that only 47 Flenleys have been born in England since 1975 plus 2 in Japan! It seems that there are currently just 23 Flenley families which, almost certainly after nine generations, spring from William Flenley or his kin who came over from Ireland!

I have been pretty lucky since my father's name (Ellingham) is also quite scarce as is my wife's father's name (Parsley) but her mother is descended from Barretts, Wilsons and Smiths!!