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Ward Family - Louth
« on: Thursday 27 January 11 21:59 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for a Ward family from Louth Lincolnshire:

John Ward b: abt 1807 married
Charlotte Pinder b: abt 1806

children: John Ward b: 1825
William Ward b:  1835 Louth (or so we believe)

possible other children:
Hannah b:  1837
Charlotte b:  1846

Possible sister (or sister-in-law)  to John:  Lucy b:  1811? 

The immigrated to the US in 1848
Some say John Sr was a glass dealer

found an 1841 Census that would put the family in Ely Trinity in Cambridgeshire, but without William (6/7 at the time).  There was a WM Ward living with a family in Isle of Ely Cambridgeshire in 1841, but with a Hopkins family.  Also a Wm living in Louth with a William and Mary Plumtree? 

Any suggestions? 

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Re: Ward Family - Louth
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 January 11 08:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Madjen38, welcome to RootsChat! :)

The WARD/PINDER marriage was 14 Oct 1822 at Louth, so rather early if your dates of birth are anywhere near accurate.

I wondered when I saw "Glass dealer" if this was like "Earthernware dealer" - a traveller or hawker of these materials - it seems it was (from father's occupations given at baptisms of children). :)

FreeReg has several children of this couple
1823 Sarah (Potter)
1824 Richard (Potter)
1825 John (Potter)
1826 Elizabeth (Travelor)
1830 Sarah (Traveller)
1834 Jeremiah (Dealer in pots)

Found at http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/Search.pl
Also find their burials  :'(

Bap of Charlotte PINDER? http://freereg.rootsweb.com/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Baptisms&RecordID=6347126

Cornelius PINDER married Sarah WHITE 1797 at Louth
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Re: Ward Family - Louth
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 January 11 16:14 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for this information!!!!!!  It only makes my search more confusing.  This is what I have actual documentation for:

William Ward's marriage liscense in Wisconsin Lists John Ward and Charlotte Pinder as his mother and father.
I have the census from Waukesha on their first arrival.
I have William Wards obituary (A large article in the paper, since he was a major contributor to the community) that gives his home/birth place as Louth, Lincolnshire.

I have letters from John to Charlotte while he was traveling out to Oregon.   He was a glass dealer and died in Troy New York, on a job (He was the dealer who helped furnish wealthy customers from New York building their Victorian mansions, with glass windows, etc - story is longer, but shortening it up here).  He died in Troy, before returning home.

Thats what we know. 

The date you gave me of the ward pinder marriage is the same as what I have. 

My only question is where is William?  He was definitely born in 1835?  Is there a reason his baptism wasnt recorded?  What about the children following him?  Could they have been in different locations and we just got the Louth wrong?   Any ideas!

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Re: Ward Family - Louth
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 January 11 16:52 GMT (UK) »
There was a William WARD 6 in Louth in 1841 - with a William and Mary PLUMTREE.

A William PLUMTREE married a Mary ENDERBY (wid) at Louth in 1832.

Now I find that a Thomas ENDERBY married a Mary PINDER at Louth in 1815.

Mary only admits to being aged 35-39 in 1841 ... but she was 53 in 1851, so old enough to have married in 1815. ;)

But I can't find a burial of a Thomas ENDERBY though ???
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Re: Ward Family - Louth
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 January 11 17:12 GMT (UK) »
woo hoo, thats a good start at pointing the direction on my question as to whether this was our William.  THANK YOU!

So, I guess the thought then is that William and the younger children were possibly NOT born in Lincolnshire, but somewhere else?   

I cant thank you enough!  We are coming to England in April.  I was hoping to get some questions answered and at least be pointed in the right direction before hand!  I cant thank you enough!

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Re: Ward Family - Louth
« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 January 11 17:22 GMT (UK) »
So, I guess the thought then is that William and the younger children were possibly NOT born in Lincolnshire, but somewhere else? 

Not my thought ;) All I can tell you is what I see in the 1841 census - Hannah 2 was not born in Cambridgeshire.  William 6 was apparently born in Lincolnshire.
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Re: Ward Family - Louth
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 February 11 12:10 GMT (UK) »
I did find a birth record for a William Ward, parents John Ward and Charlotte Pindar/Pinder who was baptised what would appear to be a week or so after what we have assumed was his birth date.  Only its in Thetford, Norfolk... I did see John and Charlotte Ward in the 1841 census in Ely Cambridgeshire with a Hannah and Charlotte and John.   He was listed as a Glass Dealer and born in Lincolnshire.  My gut tells me this is them.  But no certain proof...

Why would they have left William up in Louth? 

Will the Lincoln Family History Center have the microfiche of the birth records, marriage records, etc to view rather than transcriptions? 

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Re: Ward Family - Louth
« Reply #7 on: Monday 14 February 11 12:25 GMT (UK) »
Why would they have left William up in Louth? 

Will the Lincoln Family History Center have the microfiche of the birth records, marriage records, etc to view rather than transcriptions? 

Perhaps he went to school.  The family were travellers though, weren't they?

Here is what Lincs Archives hold http://tinyurl.com/2u8fhqh (closed Sun & Mon)
or there's Lincs FHS http://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk/ResearchCentre.htm (open Sun and Mon)

Check dates and times before visiting. :)
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