Murphy/Cassidy/Quann/Hyland-Clonmel area

[TuB1945]

Hi, all this happens around Clonmel, Tipperary. Richard Murphy m. Mary Cassidy(my GGGrandparents).  William Quann m. Catherine Brennan(my GGGrandparents).

Michael Murphy m. Ellen Quann (my GGrandparents)= 8+ children - 3 nuns, 1 priest? to N.Z., 1 brother & 1 sister to Penn. U.S.A. Mary-Anne m. .James Morrissey

Michael Murphy(aka as "Tangler" m. Joanna Hyland (my Grandparents)= 10+children.

Alice Murphy m. Francis B (my parents).

I am trying to trace any Cassidys, Quanns, Brennans or Hylands who may be part of this family.

Thanks

TB

[jdalynyc]

Well, there may be some connection but ... somethings' not quite right.  My GGF was PJ Cassidy from Clonmel, and he had a sister named Mary (but I understood that she married a Carrick, although I'm not sure), and Mary's grandmother was Catherine Brennan, but she was married to a man named Doody (THAT I'm very sure of).  Catherine's daughter Annie married William Cassidy and they had 10 or so children, and PJ and your Mary were among them.

[sycamore17]

Hi, I might be able to help you out with this i have completed a lot of work as "The Tangler" is my GGgrandfather and so on,, I also have some information on the Hylands as well,

As for The Tangler he is an interesting character my uncle told me a couple of stories about him

[jdalynyc]

That would be great.  could you give me some idea of the birth dates of your Cassidys and any other info you may have?

Any idea where in Clonmel they lived?

[TuB1945]

Hello sycamore17,
I have only just picked up your message re. "The Tangler".  I would be very interested in what you have.

Your GGgrandfather! my Grandfather! I guess we are cousins once/twice removed!

Interestingly a Murphy cousin of mine,(a Great uncle of yours?), is doing some work on the family and was in touch with me regarding photographs of the of "The Tangler" 's sister Mary-Anne, which I sent to him. The only photo of that generation that I lack is of "The Tangler".

Co-incidentally, I am visiting Clonmel in March and am in the process of contacting various cousins in the hope of making contact!
Any info. gratefully received on Murphy/Hyland/Conway/Quane etc.

Regards,

TB

 

[sycamore17]

Hi sorry for my late reply on this been extremely busy with work however this may help you out

William Quan and Catherine Brennen where married in Powerstown Clonmel on the 04/02/1838 I have their marriage cert.
Based on information gathered locally I was told that William Quans father was called Maurice Quan I cant find a record of this link yet, but this guy Maurice was hanged from the old bridge for breaking into a house in Tinhalla Carrick on Suir with 4 other guys he was the only one hanged for this the others where deported to Australia, the information on the court case is on the internet I have found several web sites that document it.

Its also said that the Quans have a link to Thomas Frances Meagher I know his mother was Alicia Quan but I cant make the link I am pretty sure if you go back far enough you would find it as Quan is not a popular name in Waterford/Tipperary so its possible they are all related.

John Hyland married Mary Carey in 1866 and had a 2nd class house which consisted of 7 rooms which would have been a large house at this time, I can say they had 4 children but there may be more, Michael, Johanna, Denis and James, there may have also had a son called William or Richard but I cant say for definite

Denis died in 1889 aged 9 from epilepsy

Michael was a R.I.C officer

James was also a R.I.C officer, his son Richard died in 1929 aged 16, his 3 other sons became priests Joe, Frank and William, there was also 2 daughters Shelia and Mary

The Hylands came from Coleman clonmel
Mary Carey Hyland died in 1887 aged 49 I have her death cert 

3 of the Tanglers sisters where nuns I have photos of them and 1 brother a priest I also have a photo of Michael Murphy and Ellen Quan,

There is a lot more information that I have however I have passed it all on to my uncle as I am helping him to but it in book form

If there is anything you can add or find some link with the Quans that would be great but for now I shall keep digging myself

[TuB1945]

Hello Sycamore17,
Thanks for your information, much of it new. There are a couple of  photos of the Tangler's sister Kate who went to USA with her brother Richard. I sent scans of them to your uncle, MM at B'more.
On my visit to Clonmel in March, I hope to visit MM and J & W B at K'more and maybe see the the C'ways.
I also want to visit the site of the farms mentioned in various birth certs. Do you know where the farms at Shanbally, Carrigeen and Carrigeensharragh,(maybe the last two are the same place), are and how can I get directions to them. I have photos of Ballintarsna and Kilmore.
You work far too late into the evening!
Once again thanks for your help
 TB

[TuB1945]

Hello again Sycamore 17,
Meant to say if you wanted decent copies of the photos of Kate M, I could get them printed properly and send the to your uncle MM.  Also I sent a scan of a man I was told was a Hyland to MM.
Also I have the RIC records of James and Michael Hyland, if you don't have them already.
Regards
TB

[sycamore17]

Hi A B,

Sorry for the late reply and to have missed you last March, its been a long year

with that said I am back doing a bit of researching with my uncle to which he has a lot of information gathered, still stuck with the Quan link to T F Meagher, getting some where with it but still lacking the documentation to prove it,

also I will be putting all research gathered into a book format so if you think you may have anything you would like to add let me know

Also could I get a copy of any records relating to the Hylands you may have

And if there is anything you want me to send onto you just let me know

Regards

Siobhan