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Identify bottle / sign and offer a date?
« on: Wednesday 26 January 11 07:21 GMT (UK) »
I've had this thread moved here from the East Yorkshire boards as we think we need specialist help on deciphering parts of this photos and also in trying to date it.  Any help appreciated on ideas for the bottle the lady is holding, the sign in the window and any ideas on possible dating.  There are closer scans of the bottle and sign on page two.  For dating purposes, details about the physical photograph included in the message which contains the second close-up scan of the bottle.
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I'm pretty sure this photo was taken somewhere in Hull and the suggestion from family is that it could be the old infirmary (I've not got any details of where this was and when the 'new' one replaced it). 

A guess from me would put this in the 1930's/1940's but I don't really know! 

If anyone recognises where this is, and at a real stretch can offer a dating period, it might lead to me beginning to understand the reason for the picture and what is going on!

Any suggestions/opinions or advice would be appreciated, thanks!
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Re: Hull - but where and... when?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 26 January 11 07:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi

My first impression is a photograph which has been taken to celebrate a product of some description. The lady is holding up a bottle for the camera. I don't think it is a nurses uniform but I can't offer any suggestions as to why the white apron.

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Jackson, Northumberland & Durham
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Geldard, N Yorks
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 26 January 11 08:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Just a thought

Similar looking building on the Seven Seas website http://www.seven-seas.com/seven-seas-timeline

1936 onwards – Cod liver oil liquid is distributed free to pregnant and nursing mothers and children up to five years old through the Ministry of Food's Welfare Food Scheme



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Jackson, Northumberland & Durham
Douthwaite, N Yorks & Durham
Geldard, N Yorks
Ward, Cheshire & W Yorks
Swallow, Boid, W Yorks
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Re: Hull - but where and... when?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 26 January 11 09:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Evie,

Interesting stuff, and food for thought!  Thank you.  I thought the uniform looked a little like a waitress one?  Which goes in with the bottle as it's hard to tell what it is!  I'll have a good look at the Seven Seas info.  A starting point if nothing else - thank you!
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 26 January 11 11:10 GMT (UK) »
Does anyone know where I might find photographs of the old Seven Sea's offices which I believe were on St Andrews Dock, Hull?  Or original buildings at Marfleet, Hull?

The one photo on the Seven Seas website has the truck across the front of the building, so I cannot see the detail I need to in order to compare the photos! 

It's a very exciting piece of information found on the timeline however; "1920s – Discovery of vitamins A and D in Cod Liver Oil, nutrients that are hard to find in other foods. Doctors urge usage of Cod liver oil as a cure for the crippling bone disease rickets, and Hull trawler owners invest in its commercial production."  I don't think I have links to trawler owners, however my family did work from Hull Docks on the trawlers.  A very tenuos link at the moment which I'm looking forward to exploring!
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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 26 January 11 11:27 GMT (UK) »
I think Evie is spot on with the building...I have enlarged it a bit as I couldn't find another photo of the building...can you scan just the bottle at 600 dpi so we can read the lable.
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 26 January 11 11:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Carol, I will try to do a larger scan of just the bottle later today, I'm very intrigued to see if anyone can work out what the bottle is (and if it is cod liver oil)!

I'm not sure if my scanner is capable of 600 dpi but I will have a look and do my best! 

Thanks for enlarging the photo of the building, I agree the brick work detail looks spot on.  I'm also drawing a blank on finding further photos of the building!  Does anyone know if this building was/is at St Andrews Dock or if this was/is at Marfleet?
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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 26 January 11 12:14 GMT (UK) »
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I thought the uniform looked a little like a waitress one?


Me too, and the chaps look more like office staff than medical. Don't know why - perhaps it's the absence of stethoscopes? 
She could be  a rather up-market tea lady in the office building (in the days when they came round with trollies).  Maybe Directors only?

I don't remember cod liver oil bottles being that shape - but perhaps I'm mixing them up with orange juice   ???

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 26 January 11 12:37 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Linda, I'd agree on the shape of the bottle, it does look much more like a drink of some kind rather than cod liver oil.  I will scan to the best quality I can and get a close-up on here later today.
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