Prosperous/Curryhills Information

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Hello all!  I am new to the rootschat forums, but have been researching my ancestors in Ireland for quite some time.   If anyone can help answer the below re: Prosperous in Kildare, I would appreciate it. 

1)  Cemeteries
What Roman Catholic cemetery would folks who died in the Prosperous/Curryhills area of Kildare circa 1857-1887 have been buried in?  Are there any photos of the cemetery/town online or an office/parish that can be contacted for purposes of tracking down ancestral burial information? I have not yet ordered the burial records from Ireland, though I know of some documents that exist.  My ideal goal would probably be working with someone local to obtain headstone photographs. 

2)  Land Records
Is there a way to view the original Griffiths Valuation records for Kildare rather than just using the online resources (i.e., I suspect that there is a transcription error affecting a possible ancestor of mine)?  Do other local land records exist that can be searched online or from which a search can be commissioned dating prior to the 1860s?  Can Kildare land records for sales during the 1890s be accessed to determine who the property was sold to and more importantly how it was originally acquired?

3)  Local History
Can anyone recommend some online sites/books that go in-depth as to the history of Kildare in the 1850s and prior (esp. northern Kildare)?  I am trying to determine what would have led my ancestors to settle in the region.  My understanding from online research is that the cotton-weaving business died out in the late 1700s and that the area was decaying long after that as the 1800s moved along.   One of my ancestors seems to have settled in the area as a farmer and apparently married a local woman whose family had a long history in Kildare. 

[shanew147]

re item 1 - an Index to deaths after the start of civil registration (1864) can be searched on on FamilySearch, but note that a cert will not show show place of burial, but will give you a date and place of death. Not certain as to it's exact location - but there is a graveyard in, or near, Prosperous named Old Killybegs that might be worth following up. An index to the names appearing on the headstones is included at - http://www.from-ireland.net/kild/graves/killybegs.htm

re item 2 - you can view the actual Griffith's pages on the  AskAboutIreland website - see http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml

For details of changes in property owner/lessor you can search the records in the valuation office. These cover changes from the time of Griffith's up to recent times (usually 1970s or 80s). For earlier records you could try Tithe records. The Tithes and Valuation details are not online at the moment.




Shane

[aj44]

You might find some photos of the area here http://www.nli.ie/digital-photographs.aspx

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Thank you, Shane.  I've done some research based on your post and it seems like Old Killybegs is the likely cemetery where my ancestors are buried.  I've reviewed the photos of it posted online, but as there is not a single name relating to my ancestors noted in them I am going to assume that they are incomplete (or perhaps my ancestors were too poor for a headstone?).  There's at least seven members of my family buried in the area though- assuming Old Killybegs is Roman Catholic and was in use circia 1850s-1880s.  The only other cemetery nearby might be called Barrretstown.

Thank you as well for the askireland link.  I hadn't come across that one, and appreciate the chance to view the original source material.  I was hoping it was a ledger format showing the cursive handwriting of the time, but it's a printed book noting the same spelling as I'm seeing transcibed on other websites.  I still think it's a 50/50 chance that the name noted is that of my ancestor though since we're an uncommon name and the one given does not seem local to the area.  I still have to follow-up on the land records office lead.

AJ-  Thanks also for the photos link.  There were some nice shots of Naas in there that I appreciate viewing.

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Regarding the notion of searching old land records for northern Kildare, can anyone who has done this online advise how they went about it?  I was doing some reading on the gov't websites the other week, and it seemed that before I could begin they wanted something like a 100E up-front payment, which seemed very steep to me.  Most of the individual records on the IFHF site only cost 5E each. 

Also, I'm good with Griffiths Valuation, but if anyone knows of some corner of the internet where the Kildare Tithe Applotments are posted I'd appreciate your sharing the link.  Anyone also know what year these records were created?

[shanew147]

The dates of the Tithe records vary, but are between about 1823 and 1838.

Other than a few extracts, most of Tithe details are not available online. They are available in the National Library in Dublin



Shane