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Re: Ancestry and 1911 Census
« Reply #18 on: Friday 29 July 11 12:26 BST (UK) »
Maybe FindMyPast's Copyright is not so exclusive anymore!

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William Russell Jones.

Search results on FMPs website would be subject to FMPs copyright, whilst the actual data isn't, the layout etc on their website is. Of course Lost Cousins may well have had permission to reproduce them.

The issue with the 1911 census and FindMyPast isn't about exclusivity or about copyright, its about the Terms and conditions of FindMyPast subscriptions which specifically ban lookups. Not only do FindMyPast subscribers who breach the Terms and Conditions of their subscription run the risk of having their subscription cancelled, forums that allow those breaches to be published run the risk of legal action.

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Re: Ancestry and 1911 Census
« Reply #19 on: Friday 29 July 11 12:32 BST (UK) »
WELL I FOUND HIM!!! :)
However it was by going through the images. I tried the tips that were offered  - I don't use FindMyPast usually but didn't get any further at narrowing it down so decided to go in at the deep end. I opted to start at image 693 and work backwards - no idea why, just felt like it - and was rewarded at image 686. How lucky was I!!
I then tried to find him in the Summary book to see why I hadn't been able to locate him. He was in fact with his family and not lodging. The answer I found was a little worrying. The Schedule number was 343 however the summary books only showed entries up to 312 so no wonder he wouldn't show up! I have emailed ancestry to ask if the summary books are complete or a schedule has been misfiled somewhere.
My tip of the day from this is if an index tells you your person is in a particular RD SD and ED, then dive in and trawl the images and you may fall lucky as I did. Will let you know if I get a reply from ancestry.
Thanks for the tips on here for searching.
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Re: Ancestry and 1911 Census
« Reply #20 on: Friday 29 July 11 12:40 BST (UK) »
Maybe FindMyPast's Copyright is not so exclusive anymore!

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William Russell Jones.

Search results on FMPs website would be subject to FMPs copyright, whilst the actual data isn't, the layout etc on their website is. Of course Lost Cousins may well have had permission to reproduce them.

The issue with the 1911 census and FindMyPast isn't about exclusivity or about copyright, its about the Terms and conditions of FindMyPast subscriptions which specifically ban lookups. Not only do FindMyPast subscribers who breach the Terms and Conditions of their subscription run the risk of having their subscription cancelled, forums that allow those breaches to be published run the risk of legal action.

Andy
 


 Yes, a point I have made on here many times, but even Moderators continue to say 'Copyright isues' .... HOWEVER, their latest T's & C's read very differently ....

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/content/using-the-site/terms-and-conditions

What you can use the service for:

You can only use the website for your own personal non-commercial use, e.g., to research your own family history.

We are also happy for you to help out other people with their family history by telling them about records available on the website and how and where they can be found, including showing them anything within our free search results.

However, you must not provide them with copies of any of the records (either an original image of the record or the information on the results page), even if you provide them for free.

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Re: Ancestry and 1911 Census
« Reply #21 on: Friday 29 July 11 13:25 BST (UK) »
Our position on 1911 look ups has not changed.

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