Gilbert Inch by Gorey

[joolsk]

I am seeking help with John Gilbert .The only certified information i have is that he married Catherine Hannah Buckley (Kate)on March 3rd 1857 in St Thomas Church Dublin .His occupation servant and Residence at time of marriage was Inch by Gorey .Johns Fathers name was Thomas  .
the couple went on to have several daughters
Elizabeth
Jane
Dora
Anna Margaret
Katie Florence
Isabelle
Frances (my great grandmother )
there were lots of family stories around this brood of daughters who were all baptised at the Church in Inch .
with the on line access now available for the 1901 census I have been able to prove and disprove some of the family stories .
I would dearly love more information on John Gilbert and his family , its been driving me mad for years can someone help please
many thanks
jools K

[shanew147]

link to the marriage for reference :

  Marriage of John Gilbert & Kate Buckley
  Date : 3 March 1857
  Fathers : Thomas Gilbert and Francis Buckley
  both fathers are Farmers

The church is St. Thomas Church of Ireland which narrows down your search for parish records on the Gilbert family. But note that the address given on the marriage record is the current residence of John and Kate, and may not be their places of birth. (Kate's address is right in the centre of Dublin city).

The village of Inch is in the civil parish of the same name. Historic Church of Ireland records for parish go back to the 1720s are available in the National Archives as ref  NAI M5059/60 (baptisms 1726-1866, marr. 1726-1887 & death/burials 1727 onwards)

There is a Joseph Gilbert listed on Griffith's valuation in the townland of Askinch Lower, parish of Inch dated 1853. Askinch Lower is just 5km north west of the village of Inch. This Joseph could be a farmer as he is listed as occupying house, office and land of about 76 acres.

There's a Thomas Gilbert in the townland of Crandaniel Little, parish of Kiltrisk, but this townland is located quite a distance south of Inch (25km) and near to Kilmuckridge.

 There are a few other Gilbert listings in Co. Wexford that might be worth following up (a Daniel, Joseph, John & Laurence ).

See Griffith's Valuation  (AskAboutIreland.Com)


Shane

[shanew147]

there's a few of their children listed in the extracted civil records on FamilySearch :

 Margaret Gilbert / 23 Aug 1864 / Coolgraney, Wexford
 Catherine Gilbert / 09 Jan 1867 / 0863, Coolgraney, Wexford
 Hannah Isabella Gilbert / 25 Sep 1869 / 783, Coolgraney, Wexford
 Frances Anne / 24 Dec 1870 / 939, Coolgraney, Wexford
 Edmond Gilbert / 10 May 1878

Coolgraney is located about 40 km *(see below) north of Inch and quite near to Arklow. The extracted records include many births between the start of Civil registration (1864) and 1880, so there could be other children before or after the ones listed above.

p.s. even though they are some distance from the town of Inch, the town and townland of Coolgraney are also in the Civil/Church of Ireland parish of Inch


Shane

[shanew147]

The correct Coolgraney/Coolgreany is actually just 3km north of Inch - not sure which town I worked out the distance to, but obviously the wrong one.

see : Inch to Coolgreaney  (Google Map)
 
(thanks for spotting that error - culbaire)



Shane

[moguemosey]

Hi

The Coolgraney, Wexford mentioned above for all the Gilbert births is not the address of birth. It is the Registration district of Coolgreany in County Wexford in which the births occurred.

The Coolgraney Registration District is made up of 5 District Electoral Divisions (DED). They are: Ballylarkin, Coolgreany, Kilgorman, Limerick, Wingfield.

You can view the townlands that make up each of these DED’s in the DED heading of the Gilbert results in the 1901 and 1911 Census online.

You will have to order the birth certs from the GRO to view the actual addresses.

I hope I have explained this properly, and it makes sense to you.

Regards
Mogue

[shanew147]

thanks, I should have made that clear on the earlier post.

In general the 'Address' included on the extracted familysearch collection seems to be registration districts or sub-districts... although I have seen a few with proper addresses - e.g. street names



Shane

[joolsk]

Shane /Mogue thank you I have not returned to the posting I made as there was no indication that there were any replies .
I have Kate's family history going back three or four genrations and the baptisms of most of the duaghters .Edmund is new one on me and from what I know I guess he did not survive .
the geography lessons are invaluable .and the explanations make perfect sense
I will now look at Griffiths Valuation again and order the birth certs at some point .
The entire  family with the exception of Kate who had  died , were in  Dublin by 1901 many of the duaghters emigrated and John Gilbert died in a mental insitution in about 1902 .the joy of having 8 women in his life !
thanks again Jools K

[joolsk]

Just abit of an update Edmond was not a son of this marriage but that of Robert Gilbert  and Hannah Buckley Gilbert -interesting !
jools K 

[twentyseven]

May not be relevant, but in the right neck of the woods.
About 16/17 years ago we stayed at a "tennis camp" holiday at a place in Co Wexford called Ahare House.  While there I looked at a Bartholemew map I had with me and saw that Ahare House was in fact about half a mile away. Went to have a look at it and found One remaining wing and a few outbuildings all being used as a farmyard.  The land was all growing cereals.  We looked into an open shed and there was a whole lot of household 'junk' lying around. Looking closer, as you do, we saw that this 'junk' included old family photographs, a bible or two, pictures, books etc. Among the photographs was that of a young handsome naval officer. There was also a picture of a family gathering outside what was presumably the front of this house as it was originally. I have since seen the original ground-plan on the maps at OSI map-viewer.  Intrigued by all this, we called at a neighbouring house on the way back to base. The family who lived there were called Gilbert.  We asked why all the personal stuff was in a shed!  They said that there were two or three old spinster sisters living there. When the last of these got too old to cope, she/they were moved to a nursing-home and the land was now owned and farmed by whoever paid for the nursing-home. Whether he/she was a relation or not, it is obvious that he/she was not worried about the family heirlooms.