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Re: Charles James Spry Palmer, b 1857 England
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 23 January 11 13:35 GMT (UK) »
Not sure this is your man, Marion.  I have found what I think is the same couple on the 1900 Census in Woodland, Logan, Oklahoma.

Charles S Palmer 32 Born Dec 1867 Missouri. Married 1897. Occup[ation Farmer
Bertha Palmer 24 Born July 1875 Missouri. Married 3 years
Roy Fast/Tast 8 Born Feb 1892 Missouri. Step-Son

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Re: Charles James Spry Palmer, b 1857 England
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 23 January 11 15:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandra

I agree that this makes this sighting much less likely to be a match. It would be nice to eliminate him, and this guy has the wrong birthdate, birthplace and occupation. I'm going to carry on searching for theatre sightings for him in these missing years, as although they're usually for a short "run", they do indicate his whereabouts quite well.

I know that in July 1895 he was in Sacramento, and this is why I'm following up the 1903 divorce in San Francisco - but wonder was that the same Charles S and Bertha, or a different couple. I suspect that a divorce wouldn't come cheap and might be beyond the means of a deserted farmer's wife.

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England:
BABER/BEAVER, Bristol;  
BINDING, Somerset 
BURRELL, Enfield/Tottenham
CARNEY, Bristol;  
CARTER, Nottingham; 
CATER, Gloucestershire; 
EMMETT, West Wilts & Bristol; 
GARNETT, Harwich; 
JOY, Norwich; 
MOSS, Bristol; 
THOMPSON, Harwich; 
THORN, Norwich;


Wales:
THOMAS, Thomas, born 1819 Llangyfelach, GLA
DAVIES, Daniel, b abt 1791 Llannon, CMN
DAVIES, Nathaniel, b abt 1798 Manordeifi, PEM
EDWARDS, Edward, b abt 1780 Llandeilo

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Re: Charles James Spry Palmer, b 1857 England
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 23 January 11 16:07 GMT (UK) »
I'm amused that he was called a deadbeat:  http://www.telusplanet.net/public/dgarneau/B.C.8.htm

I found newspaper articles on a subscription site that put him in Winnipeg in Aug. & Sep. 1896.  Some articles I found through Google mention a singer with him named Miss Bertha Darrell - maybe she's the wife?

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Re: Charles James Spry Palmer, b 1857 England
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 23 January 11 16:23 GMT (UK) »
I'm amused that he was called a deadbeat:  http://www.telusplanet.net/public/dgarneau/B.C.8.htm

I'm pretty sure that cheating a newspaper man shows very poor judgement!! 


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I found newspaper articles on a subscription site that put him in Winnipeg in Aug. & Sep. 1896.  Some articles I found through Google mention a singer with him named Miss Bertha Darrell - maybe she's the wife?

You might be right. Thanks for the sightings, and if he was in Winnipeg at that time, he wan't getting married in Missouri!!

In 1911, he stated he was married for 31 years with 5 children, these are the children from his first marriage in NZ. It might be that there was no 2nd marriage in the USA - but I'll look into this Bertha and see if I can trace her at all.

Thank you so much for looking
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England:
BABER/BEAVER, Bristol;  
BINDING, Somerset 
BURRELL, Enfield/Tottenham
CARNEY, Bristol;  
CARTER, Nottingham; 
CATER, Gloucestershire; 
EMMETT, West Wilts & Bristol; 
GARNETT, Harwich; 
JOY, Norwich; 
MOSS, Bristol; 
THOMPSON, Harwich; 
THORN, Norwich;


Wales:
THOMAS, Thomas, born 1819 Llangyfelach, GLA
DAVIES, Daniel, b abt 1791 Llannon, CMN
DAVIES, Nathaniel, b abt 1798 Manordeifi, PEM
EDWARDS, Edward, b abt 1780 Llandeilo