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Horatio Nelson Weir married to Matilda Cresswell
« on: Thursday 20 January 11 22:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I'm new to all of this but am finally starting the journey to piece together my family history. 

Could anyone shed light upon how to get the best results going backwards from info on my grandparents who have been deceased for many years.

My father's side is Horatio Nelson Weir married to Matilda Cresswell, who lived in Tradeston, Glasgow.  Both died in the 1960s and were married, I believe around 1913.
I believe "Nelson" had 2 x brothers - Ebeneezer or "Abie" and, I think, Alfred but not sure as both my parents are now deceased.

My mother's side is Davie McAulay married to Jessie (Ralston - I think?!?), again in Plantation/Ralston area.  Jessie would have died around 1971 whilst Davie died in the late 1980s.  His father, I understand, was of Irish descent/origin and was run over by a Tram car in Glasgow.

Any information already in extistence for these and beyond would be hugely welcome as would helpful guidance/advice.
Many thanks indeed.   TW

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Re: Horatio Nelson Weir married to Matilda Cresswell
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 20 January 11 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

A very good starting point would be the 1913 marriage cert as that will give you their ages and also the names and maiden names of their parents

I think this may be Horatio on the 1891 census for 17 Jamieson St Glasgow.  All older children b Dundee Forfarshire

Horatio N Weir 42 b Glasgow last & boot tree maker
Ebenezer  12 b Dundee
Alfred  10
James  9
Horatio N    8
Lizzie H   7 b Glasgow
William H  4 b Glasgow
Glasgow Govan ED 106 Page 25 Line 6

1881 census for Angus as follows

Horatio Weir 32 last maker b Lanarkshire
Elizabeth  29 b Lanarkshire
Marion   4 b Lanarkshire but it then also has Forfar after it
Ebenzer  2 b Forfar
Alfred   1 b Forfar
St Peter ED 28A Page 7 Line 1
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Re: Horatio Nelson Weir married to Matilda Cresswell
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 20 January 11 23:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi TW and welcome  :D

If you go onto the website Scotlands People you can download extracts of birth, marriage and death records...at a cost.  £6 will get you 30 credits.  It costs 5 credits to view an extract and you can save it to your pc.  You'll use 1 credit to view search results.

There's a marriage extract showing for Horatio Nelson Weir and Matilda Cresswell, 1913, Plantation, Glasgow.  The marriage extract will confirm the names of their parents.

Horatio is also showing up on the 1891 and 1901 censuses.

In 1891 he's at 17 Jamieson St in Hutchesontown.  It says he was born in Dundee.  He's there with his father and brothers and sisters.

Horatio N Weir 42
Ebenezer Weir 12
Alfred Weir 10
James Weir 9
Horatio N Weir 8
Lizzie H Weir 7
William H Weir 4

In 1901 he's at 1 South Wellington Street, Hutchesontown.  This time it looks like his mother's there - Elizabeth*

Horatio N Weir 52
Elizth Weir 49
Ebenezer Weir 22
James Weir 19
Horatio Weir 17
Lizzie Weir 16
William Weir 14
 
Parents both born in Glasgow.

* Shown as Lizzie on the marriage extract (see post below).
MITCHELL: Glasgow/Fife
MACDONALD: Isle of Coll/Fife
BURGESS/SMITH/HOUGHTON/WILD: Lancashire
HOLMES: Ireland/Lanarkshire/Fife
MCMEEKIN: Stirlingshire/Canada
MCPHERSON: Stirlingshire

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Re: Horatio Nelson Weir married to Matilda Cresswell
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 20 January 11 23:22 GMT (UK) »
1901 for 1 South Wellington St Glasgow

Horatio N Weir  52 boot tree maker b Glasgow
Elizabeth  49 b Glasgow
Ebenezer 22 b Dundee
James 19  b Dundee
Horatio 17  b Dundee
Lizzie   16 b Glasgow
William  14 b Glasgow
Glasgow Govan ED 37 Page 19 Line 7
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Re: Horatio Nelson Weir married to Matilda Cresswell
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 20 January 11 23:27 GMT (UK) »
1901 census for 45 Pollock St Glasgow - all b Ireland except James & Annie

William Cresswell 40 quay labourer
Matilda 39
Madge  12
William 11
Matilda 9
Jane 7
James 5 b Glasgow
Annie  1 Month b Glasgow
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Re: Horatio Nelson Weir married to Matilda Cresswell
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 20 January 11 23:31 GMT (UK) »
Using the search engine on SP, looks like Horatio died 1965, and Matilda in 1968.  

There's a Matilda Cresswell coming up on the 1901 census, born abt 1892 in Ireland.  Parents William and Matilda.  45 Pollok St, Kinning Park Burgh.
MITCHELL: Glasgow/Fife
MACDONALD: Isle of Coll/Fife
BURGESS/SMITH/HOUGHTON/WILD: Lancashire
HOLMES: Ireland/Lanarkshire/Fife
MCMEEKIN: Stirlingshire/Canada
MCPHERSON: Stirlingshire

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Re: Horatio Nelson Weir married to Matilda Cresswell
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 20 January 11 23:34 GMT (UK) »
Horatio senior on the 1851 census indexed as Hanitia

84 North Street Glasgow - all born Glasgow.  Mary's maiden name was Agnew

Ebenezer Weir 35 Grocer Wine & Spirit seller
Mary   39
Juliana   14
Ebenezer   9
Alfred   7
Zelena 5 IGI shows her as Zeleana Strathearn Weir
Joy   3
Horatio Weir 1
Eliza Chrisholm 16 servant
Janet Chisholm 12 servant
Barony ED 34B Page  9 Line 16

EBENEZER WEIR    Spouse:  MARY AGNEW    Marriage:  14 AUG 1836   Glasgow, Lanark

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There's a Matilda Cresswell coming up on the 1901 census, born abt 1892 in Ireland

See my reply above
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 20 January 11 23:37 GMT (UK) »
Horatio's grandparents - Ebenezer Weir and Mary Agnew, married 14/8/1836 Glasgow.  You can get this on SP, but because it's pre-1855 there's no guarantee it will name their parents.
 
MITCHELL: Glasgow/Fife
MACDONALD: Isle of Coll/Fife
BURGESS/SMITH/HOUGHTON/WILD: Lancashire
HOLMES: Ireland/Lanarkshire/Fife
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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 20 January 11 23:44 GMT (UK) »
David McAulay married Jessie Ralston in 1930, Camlachie, Glasgow.  You can download that marriage extract too, and find out the names of David and Jessie's parents.

Jessie died in 1970.  It looks like she was born around 1898.  There's a suitable candidate on the 1901 census, living with her grandmother and parents, 39 Charles Street, Camlachie.

Parents:  Daniel Ralston (born Ireland abt 1857, shoemaker) & Agnes Somerville (born Glasgow abt 1858).

Others:
Maggie Somerville (grandmother) 69
Andrew Somerville 34
Hugh Ralston 20
Agness Ralston 18
Robina Ralston 14
Sarah Ralston 10

There's a possible entry for Davie's death showing for 1989.
 
MITCHELL: Glasgow/Fife
MACDONALD: Isle of Coll/Fife
BURGESS/SMITH/HOUGHTON/WILD: Lancashire
HOLMES: Ireland/Lanarkshire/Fife
MCMEEKIN: Stirlingshire/Canada
MCPHERSON: Stirlingshire