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Re: 2011 census form peek
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 02 March 11 08:11 GMT (UK) »
Out of interest - the question about what passport do you hold - which box do you put the cross in if you have had one but it has expired?

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« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 02 March 11 08:23 GMT (UK) »
That's a good question Carole- we both have expired passports ?
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« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 02 March 11 08:27 GMT (UK) »
An expired passport is not a passport any more - it is only an interesting old document.  If you don't have a current passport, you should not tick any boxes.
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« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 02 March 11 08:54 GMT (UK) »
An expired passport is not a passport any more - it is only an interesting old document. 

Belonging to a couple of interesting old fogies  ;D

Thanks for the info Nick.

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« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 02 March 11 09:27 GMT (UK) »
Well I've still got mine but it expired about 15 years ago - as I had no plans to travel abroad it didn't seem worth the cost of buying a new one and I don't really imagine I'll ever want one again, but increasingly they seem to be used as means of identification. So I haven't got a current passport - the next question is "have you got a driving licence?" yup, but it's an old pink one, so even that gets viewed with suspicion by some people. I don't pay the utility bills, so I don't have them in my name - I've virtually become a non-person!

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« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 02 March 11 11:17 GMT (UK) »
Have to admit I've only just seen this thread but my first reaction is ... 'Ye gods' - I would have read it all but there was a danger of falling asleep! And I've lost count of the number of times I have to enter my name - presumably they're working on the same assumption as when you had to write your address on the back of a cheque - that'd you'd put 'Duke of Westminster' on the front but '3 Railway Cuttings' on the back!!

Anomalous or what?   H1 - who usually lives here?  No-one, it's a holiday home - so ... if no-one's there how are they going to fill in the form?   

So then we come to the wonderful wording of H5 'If there is no-one usually living here (there are only visitors staying here) answer questions H7 to H11 on page 6 and then go to the back page (page 32) to answer the Visitor questions   Ah, but what if there aren't any visitors either?

And H14 - how many cars are available?   Well, mine ... and my husband's but he's abroad for more than 12 months; I use my daughters' cars occasionally but they don't live here;  my cousin lives 3 street away, I use her car sometimes .... shall I go on?

In a previous life I worked for the Police - the answer to questions 35, 37, and 38 is always going to be 'Enforcement of law and order and prevention and detection of crime' - it's the Police for heaven's sake.

OK, OK, so it's the statistics they're after, but it does have the smack of 'statistics are used like a drunk uses a lamp-post ... for support rather than illumination'

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« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 02 March 11 16:09 GMT (UK) »
Well, 'in the old days' you used to hang on to old passports because they might contain a visa which didn't expire with the passport.  One of my old passports contains a visa for the USA which had no expiry date and allowed me to stay in the US for up to 6 months at a time, if I recall correctly.  Unfortunately they cancelled all of these after 9/11.

What other use is there for old passports, other than tracking the ravages of time on our faces ?  :o  :'(


Incidentally, you also need either a valid passport, or a photo drivers licence to board a plane travelling within the UK these days, again because of the Prevention of Terror regulations.

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« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 02 March 11 16:27 GMT (UK) »

Incidentally, you also need either a valid passport, or a photo drivers licence to board a plane travelling within the UK these days, again because of the Prevention of Terror regulations.



That's interesting Nick - thanks.

My passport expired a few years back- I HATE flying,but may have to oneday in the future :(

I only have one of those green paper driving licences too,so I'd be stuck having no photo ID wouldn't I  ;D

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« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 02 March 11 16:30 GMT (UK) »
Well, 'in the old days' you used to hang on to old passports because they might contain a visa which didn't expire with the passport.  One of my old passports contains a visa for the USA which had no expiry date and allowed me to stay in the US for up to 6 months at a time, if I recall correctly.  Unfortunately they cancelled all of these after 9/11.

What other use is there for old passports, other than tracking the ravages of time on our faces ?  :o  :'(


Incidentally, you also need either a valid passport, or a photo drivers licence to board a plane travelling within the UK these days, again because of the Prevention of Terror regulations.



That's why we've never gone to visit my OH's relatives in the far north of Scotland  ;D I'm blowed if I'm going  to go to the expense of buying a passport just to travel within my own country!

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