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Re: 2011 census form peek
« Reply #108 on: Tuesday 08 March 11 12:48 GMT (UK) »
Yes, that is correct procedure as per the collector training I have received... I can only assume the creators of the forms felt that Welsh nationalists would object to having to have English on 'their' form.

You misunderstand the "Welsh"  question.      History plays a part in the use of the Welsh language.

For many people in Wales Welsh is their first language.
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Re: 2011 census form peek
« Reply #109 on: Tuesday 08 March 11 14:51 GMT (UK) »
Yes, that is correct procedure as per the collector training I have received... I can only assume the creators of the forms felt that Welsh nationalists would object to having to have English on 'their' form.

You misunderstand the "Welsh"  question.      History plays a part in the use of the Welsh language.

For many people in Wales Welsh is their first language.

............. and it was the original language of Britain.
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Re: 2011 census form peek
« Reply #110 on: Tuesday 08 March 11 14:59 GMT (UK) »
Yes, that is correct procedure as per the collector training I have received... I can only assume the creators of the forms felt that Welsh nationalists would object to having to have English on 'their' form.

You misunderstand the "Welsh"  question.      History plays a part in the use of the Welsh language.

For many people in Wales Welsh is their first language.

I'm not disputing that... I was raised in Wales and have lived here for most of my life - my point was that I would have thought it was cheaper for the ONS to produce one form with both Welsh and English on it.
WRY - Chambers, Burgin, Green, Bradley, Jefferson, Bates, Widdowson, Vickers; DUR - Brennan; LKS - Conway, McGunnigal; KEN - Harrison; GLA - Thomas, Jones; STI - Conway; SSX - Coleman, Freeman, Jefferson; NTT - Jefferson, Chambers; DBY - Chambers, Smith; NBL - Harrison; TIP - Conway

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Re: 2011 census form peek
« Reply #111 on: Tuesday 08 March 11 15:54 GMT (UK) »
Yes, that is correct procedure as per the collector training I have received... I can only assume the creators of the forms felt that Welsh nationalists would object to having to have English on 'their' form.

You misunderstand the "Welsh"  question.      History plays a part in the use of the Welsh language.

For many people in Wales Welsh is their first language.
The form is 32 pages long.
I'm not disputing that... I was raised in Wales and have lived here for most of my life - my point was that I would have thought it was cheaper for the ONS to produce one form with both Welsh and English on it.

OOps   The form is 32 pages long.
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Re: 2011 census form peek
« Reply #112 on: Tuesday 08 March 11 16:03 GMT (UK) »
Regarding this form.
George Orwell was a few years out 1981 make that 2011.
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How many rain forest's were cut down for the paper for this?
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Re: 2011 census form peek
« Reply #113 on: Tuesday 08 March 11 16:08 GMT (UK) »
Just received ours through today  and am already  having naughty thoughts about wether to make it as difficult for any future family historians looking for me and mine as my ancestors did for me OR doing the decent thing and filling it in to the best of my knowledge.  ;D


  Re passports

[ should  be professionally printed (photographs printed at home are not acceptable]


I recently renewed our passports- my photo was taken in a photo booth but my husband, horrified by the price charged,  asked me to find a 'home' one--this i did but it was a fraction smaller  than officially required. I found a website that could alter the photo to the size required and both were accepted .

Out of interest--i did the postoffice 'check and send' service and when the chap behind the counter checked through mine  he kept looking at me and then at the old passport photo and the new photo with a rather enquiring look [Apparently the photos are both meant to be recognizable as the same person ]and i had to explain that "Yes they are both of me but now i have acquired a lot of extra wrinkles in the last 10years!!!   : :'( poli
Behling---- London
Bridges---- London
Copperwheat----Bedfordshire---Norfolk
Denton----Bedfordshire
Edwards----Wales
Evans----N.Wales
Farrow----Norfolk
Hughes----N.Wales
Jones----Wales---Bedfordshire
Lambert----London
Larmouth/uth----London
Ostler----Norfolk
Sherwood----Bedfordshire
Silver----Bedfordshire---Suffolk
Smart----Leicestershire---Middx
Teagle----Buckinghamshire---Wales
Totterdell----Hampshire---London---Stoke-On-Trent
Woods----London

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Re: 2011 census form peek
« Reply #114 on: Tuesday 08 March 11 16:10 GMT (UK) »
How many rain forest's were cut down for the paper for this?

That was partly the point I was attempting to make above - surely it would have been more ecologically viable to print a set of questionnaires with both Welsh and English (or Scots Gaelic and English, or Irish Gaelic and English) than to do separate ones.

Of course there is always the option to fill out the form online and recycle the paper version... I just wish I had access to some of the info for which the census is asking me about my ancestors.
WRY - Chambers, Burgin, Green, Bradley, Jefferson, Bates, Widdowson, Vickers; DUR - Brennan; LKS - Conway, McGunnigal; KEN - Harrison; GLA - Thomas, Jones; STI - Conway; SSX - Coleman, Freeman, Jefferson; NTT - Jefferson, Chambers; DBY - Chambers, Smith; NBL - Harrison; TIP - Conway

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Re: 2011 census form peek
« Reply #115 on: Tuesday 08 March 11 16:14 GMT (UK) »
It is possible in some households that the Husband may want to fill in the Welsh version of the form, and the wife may want to complete the English form.
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Re: 2011 census form peek
« Reply #116 on: Tuesday 08 March 11 16:16 GMT (UK) »
No problem, get one of them to fill in the Household questionnaire and the other an Individual one.
WRY - Chambers, Burgin, Green, Bradley, Jefferson, Bates, Widdowson, Vickers; DUR - Brennan; LKS - Conway, McGunnigal; KEN - Harrison; GLA - Thomas, Jones; STI - Conway; SSX - Coleman, Freeman, Jefferson; NTT - Jefferson, Chambers; DBY - Chambers, Smith; NBL - Harrison; TIP - Conway