penfolds gurlings yard

[Joanne19721972]

And are there any pics of any of them

[Ladyhawk]

I think this is the birth entry of Rebecca BOTTON

Rebecca BOTTON mmn GUESS
Registration Quarter:   Sep 1871 London Volume:   1d Page:   588

Her mother’s bpt.

Frances GUESS
Baptism 19 Jun 1831 Tenterden, Kent
Father:   John Guess Mother:   Elizabeth

I think below is Rebecca Botton’s family born 1871, she would not appear on this census as it was taken before her birth , her brother James was a witness to her marriage to Thomas Anderson.

James BOTTON married in 1880 age 18 father Henry Botton both Licensed Hawkers one of the witnesses is Robert PENFOLD , the other is his married sister Priscilla GARLICK, she married in 1874.
These marriage details can be viewed on Anc*y  Do you have a subscription?
If not, I can give type up all the details from the marriages available on line just let me know

1871 census Piece:   732 Folio:   56 Page Number:   61
Old James St.,   Caravans
Henry BOTTON   42 Eltham Kent Licensed Hawker
Frances    40 Tenterden Kent
Priscilla    17 Ashbourne Derby
James    8 Holloway Middlesex
John    6 Lewisham
Caroline   4 Peckham
Edward    1 Forest Hill Surrey

Priscilla Botton
Baptism 27 Nov 1853 Holloway, Islington
Father:   Henry Botton, occ licensed hawker Mother: Francis, abode Lodging at the Crown

Edward Botton
Baptism    13 Jun 1869 East Dulwich St John the Evangelist, Southwark,
Father:   Henry Botton, occ hawker Mother:   Frances

Botton surname has been transcribed as Bottom/Bolton/Barton

This looks to be the marriage of Henry & Frances but his surname is BARTON, hers GASS
pretty certain these are the same persons as Henry BOTTON & Frances GUESS

Henry BARTON, Minor, occ Hawker father James, hawker
Marriage 24 Dec 1850 St Mary, Putney, Wandsworth
Spouse:   Frances GASS full age, father John, Hawker
Witnesses James & Mary Barton , all made their mark (x)

I haven't been able to locate Henry & Frances BOTTON with their children on 1851, 1861 or 1881 census but will keep looking possibly their surname may be incorrectly transcribed....

Will see what I can find on the Anderson children and get back to you

[Ladyhawk]

And are there any pics of any of them

Not that I've seen

[Joanne19721972]

Thank u it a lot to take in lol an to understand I have nothing of my great gran rebecca botton only what I have seen on here an yes would b grateful of any other info thanks

[Ladyhawk]

Thank u it a lot to take in lol an to understand I have nothing of my great gran rebecca botton only what I have seen on here an yes would b grateful of any other info thanks

Is this the death Thomas & Rebecca's son Joseph ?

Joseph Anderson age 57
Registration Quarter:   Jun 1964 Bromley Kent Volume:   5b Page:   181

Not online to view but it looks as if Thomas & Rebecca's dau Caroline
married in 1932 a J M CONNAL
(have not included his full name as I have not seen a death entry for him)

You can search here https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl for the marriage entry and
also any births (CONNAL /ANDERSON)  female born in 1937

I'm going off line shortly but will take a look later and post any information I find

[Joanne19721972]

Yes that my grandad Joseph an ok thank u

[Ladyhawk]

Burial of Thomas & Rebecca Anderson’s married dau  Mary Ann

Mary Ann Penfold
Death 21 Feb 1950
Cemetery:   Wandsworth Cemetery
also her husband Frederick & dau Caroline - click link below
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/139546172

[Ladyhawk]

1911c brought forward from reply 7 (see reply 6 for details of 1901 census and marriage of Thomas & Rebecca)
Free 1911 census available via familysearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW5H-T97
8 children 2 died by 1911
Thomas Anderson   Head 42   Wandsworth, London
Rebecca Anderson   Wife   40   Penge, Surrey
Thomas Anderson   Son   20   Battersea London, London
Mary Ann Anderson dau   18   Battersea London
Rebecca Anderson   Dau   11   Battersea London
Patience Anderson   Dau    8   Foots Cray, Kent
Joseph Anderson   Son    4   Battersea London, London
Caroline Anderson   Dau    2

Thomas ANDERSON
I don’t know if this is the son of Thomas & Rebecca here's a possible marriage/death
TA marriage  Bromley Kent 1920 to D RODNEY (See FreeBMD)
TA death Bromley Kent 1960 age 70
Three Anderson/Rodney children born 1921, 1929, 1934 (See FreeBMD) all births registered Bromley Kent

Mary Ann Anderson married Frederick PENFOLD - details of marriage confirm father’s name Thomas death (See reply 6)

Rebecca & Patience Anderson - no further details found on these daughters of Thomas & Rebecca

JOSEPH - you’ve confirmed he’s your grandfather and his death entry 1964 Bromley Kent - his baptism 24 Feb gives his dob 8 Feb 1907

Caroline Anderson possibly married in 1932 a J M Connal - you would need to confirm this is correct as no m/c available to view online, 1 child born 1937

From the marriage of Thomas Anderson to Rebecca Botton his father is named Joseph a hawker

Thomas Anderson can be found with his family on 1871 census in a Caravan in Croydon

Joseph ANDERSON 26 licenced Hawker Croydon Surrey
Mary A 28 Elton Kent, licensed hawker
James 3 Battersea (married age 20 on 8 August 1887, father Joseph)
THOMAS 1 Wandsworth (married Rebecca Botton)
Pariant 5 Croydon (her name is Patience married  age 18 on 19th Aug 1884 father Joseph Hawker)

This appears to be the marriage of Thomas’ parents Jospeh Anderson & Mary Ann

Joseph ANDERSON age 20 hawker, Wandsworth
father William Gess Anderson, hawker
Marriage    20 Feb 1865 St Mary, Battersea, Wandsworth
Spouse:   Mary Ann SMITH age 23 father Thomas, hawker

Reply 10 gives you details of Rebecca Botton (Thomas Anderson’s wife)

Hopefully all the information is of help with your family research - good luck 

[Joanne19721972]

Thank u so much to take in is there anything else on mary ann smith Joseph's wife she would be my g g gran x