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George Samuel Beetles Wife
« on: Wednesday 19 January 11 21:04 GMT (UK) »
I'm wondering if anybody could help me find the wife of my 4 x Gt Grandfather George Samuel Beetles born abt. 1811 in John's Row London and d.1870 in Holborn, Middlesex. I do have a lady Louisa Linton who I found through the hint system on Ancestry but when I checked her marriage info she married a Mr Phillips so that info is wrong.

My 3 x Gt Grandmother George's daughter was a Georgiana Louisa Beetles who married my 3 x Gt Grandfather John G Hitchcock.

If someone could help find Georges wife and a possible marriage that would be fantastic.

Thanks for any help in advance...8)

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Re: George Samuel Beetles Wife
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19 January 11 21:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I can't see anything. However in 1861 the eldest daughter at home is given as Isabella Beetles.

Her birth in Freebmd is:

Isabella Beetles
December quarter 1844
St Luke 2 264

or better still, your g x3 grandmother

Georgina Louisa Beetles
June quarter 1840
St Luke Middlesex
2 283

If you sent for her birth certificate this would give you her mother's maiden name.

Jan
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Re: George Samuel Beetles Wife
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 January 11 21:42 GMT (UK) »
George's wife is enumerated as 39-yr-old Louisa, born St Luke's, in 1861: RG9/204/76/1.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: George Samuel Beetles Wife
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 January 11 21:49 GMT (UK) »
I do have a lady Louisa Linton who I found through the hint system on Ancestry but when I checked her marriage info she married a Mr Phillips so that info is wrong.


Do you mean this marriage? If so it seems likely to be a re-marriage after George's death (which was registered in Mar qtr 1870), so I'm not sure why it would eliminate Louisa as having been George's wife???

Marriage, Sep qtr 1870

Louisa BEETLES
Joseph PHILLIPS

Holborn 1b 963
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: George Samuel Beetles Wife
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 January 11 21:50 GMT (UK) »
If that age is correct, that makes her born about 1822, so unless she married very young, we should be looking at a marriage after 1837, but I can't see one.

Jan
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Re: George Samuel Beetles Wife
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 January 11 21:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi

1851 Census
HO107 1521 312 1
4 John Row, St Luke, Middlesex (same address as given on Georgiana and sister Emma's marriages)

George BEATTY (sic) Head 39 Oven Builder
Louisa BEETTES Wife 30
Louisa Dau 11
Emma Dau 8
Isabella Dau 6
George Fred Son 5mths
All born St Luke, Middlesex

KR
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Re: George Samuel Beetles Wife
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 January 11 21:55 GMT (UK) »
Joseph and Louisa PHILLIPS had the youngest BEETLES child (Charles b 1857) with them in 1871: RG10/400/35/15.  Louisa was enumerated as aged 50, born St Luke's.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: George Samuel Beetles Wife
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 19 January 11 22:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,

I all had to re-edit as Maryam had posted some useful info....:)

Thanks for all the information, certainly looks like I have the correct info for Louisa Linton then on my Ancestry Tree. When I saw the marriage to Joseph Phillips I thought all my information was wrong! So the marriage I have is Louisa's second marriage and the info Maryam found with Charles Beetles living with them makes sence as he is in my tree as the child of George and Louisa.

Excellent but I still think i'll get Georgina's Birth Cert just to make certain it is all correct.

Thanks again....8)

Tyrone

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Re: George Samuel Beetles Wife
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 19 January 11 22:08 GMT (UK) »
Just to confirm what was found above for you

Marriage St Pauls Bunhill Row Islington
30th July 1870
Joseph Phillips/Full age/Widower/Silvermith/Address-Georges Row/Father-John Phillips Metal Maker
to
Louisa Beetles/Full age/Widow/Address-Georges Row/Father John Linton,Harness Maker

Welsh Lady
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Amor/Amer-Bromham Wiltshire,Hertfordshire,Suffolk.
Pyett-Suffolk
Wolfenden-Cambridgeshire,Huntingdonshire
Bird,Nash-Essex.
Anderson,-London.Bethnal Green,Shoreditch,Hackney
King-,Uxbridge,Shoreditch,Bethnal Green
Edwards,Roberts,Lane,Price,Williams-Llanelli.
Roberts-Pembroke Dock