Henry Hole b.1818 Tansley Matlock

[JudyF]

Henry Hole, b.1818 'Tansley,Matlock'. There are 2 Henry Holes born in 1818 in the same area. One is the son of George and Ann Hole and became a shoemaker, living and working all his life around Ashover. I am sure they are related, but the Henry I'm researching moved to the Langley Mill/Eastwood area where he worked as a miner. He was married to Hannah, (Holmes). Anyone know the name of my Henry's parents please. I can't find him anywhere on the 1841 census

[suzard]

there is a baptism IGI extracted
Henry Hole
born 22 Dec 1818
chistened 10Jan 1819 Matlock derbys
mother Sarah Hole

also there is
Daniel Hole
born 26 Feb 1820
christened 18 Mar 1821 matlock Derbys
mother Sarah Hole


1851 Daniel Hole is b Tansley and is living in Yorks with wife Lydia (he is a platelayer on railway.

They could be anywhere in 1841 -and if they were illegit mother could have married

Marriage certs would give father's name (or spcae left blank if illegit
sometimes witnesses are family

Suz

[suzard]

wirksworth site gives same baptism dates
but
For Henry states mother Sarah of Riber
Daniel mother Sarah of Tansley
(probably the same sarah


there is a marriage
12 Aug 1826 matlock
Sarah Hole
Thomas Strange

1851 gives
Tansley
 Thomas Strange Head M 55 FWK Crich derbys
Sarah wife 58 housekeeper Tansley Derbys
Amey daughter 15 Tape weaver Tansley
James son 13           do                 do
Jane Tayor Lodger 20  do
Ann Wibbraham? Lodger U 25 Tape weaver Wessington Derbys
HO107 2150 277 16

there are more children in 1841 but no "Hole" children

maybe Henry's mother???

Suz

[spendlove]

Hello JudyF,

This may be your Henry in the 1841 Census, he would have been aged abt 23, however due
to the rounding down of aged in this census is shown as aged 20:-

1841 HO107/195 Book 27 Folio 4 Pg 2
Normanton Woodhead, South Normanton, Derbyshire

Sims  Thomas     25      Farmer
"        Daniel       20      Ag. Lab
HOLE HENRY       20      Ag. Lab
Green Thomas      9      Ag. Lab
All born Derbys

At this stage he is working in Agriculture however South Normanton was a mining village so
perhaps he changed occupations.

Spendlove

[JudyF]

Thanks for all the info. It is all fresh and I will certainly pursue it further. Henry must be somewhere in 1841 and must have had parents. many thanks.
Judy

[spendlove]

Hello Judy,

Have taken  look at the Census Entries for Henry Hole,  he gives his place of birth
as Matlock, which would tie in with the Bpt. of Henry Hole son of Sarah Hole born 22.12.1818,
Bpt Matlock 10.1.1819.

There is little chance you will ever discover the Father of either Henry or Daniel, unless there
is an entry in the Overseers Records, held at County Record Office, Matlock.

Some of these have been transcribed, not yours,  and appear on:-

http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Regards
Spendlove

[SC]

Hi JudyF

I believe that you posted on a message on the Notts board back in 09 when I was researching this family (Topic #409223) and that we exchanged some info by private message though I can only find a few notes I made at the time
We have a common connection to this family
Henry Hole that you need is indeed the one in 1818 with mother Sarah so I doubt we'll ever find out who his father was
Son John I believe is your family line, my connection is through his brother Harry who married one of my Pickards
I also posted on the Derbys board to find info on mother Sarah and found more or less what has been found for you here on this thread - she did marry Thomas Strange
Daniel Hole married lydia young in 1847 and he was in Yorkshire for the rest of his life, married again after Lydia died
 
If you need to exhange any more info just send me a personal message by clicking on the little icon at the side of the message

SC

[shirl100]

Just to confirm from Matlock St Giles

Sarah Hole of Matlock and Thomas Strange of Crich, marriage by banns 12 Aug 1826

Henry Hole bap 10 Jan 1819 mother Sarah of Riber
Daniel Hole bap 18 Mar 1821 mother Sarah of Tansley

I also have a connection to Matlock/Tansley/Ashover Hole families and they are just as elusive!

Shirl