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Ahier a priest
« on: Monday 17 January 11 22:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Does anybody have any information on a French/Jersey man surname Ahier who was a priest or training to be a priest emigrating to Canada possibly during the 1850's. No other information is available.

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Re: Ahier a priest
« Reply #1 on: Monday 17 January 11 22:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Suellen,

There is a Geroge Ahier born Jersey c1832 living in Quebec in the 1861 Canadian census.

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Re: Ahier a priest
« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 January 11 23:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Suellen,

There is a Geroge Ahier born Jersey c1832 living in Quebec in the 1861 Canadian census.

His occupation is listed as merchant.

There's also a John Ahier on that census born abt 1841 who was a labourer and a Clement Ahier born about 1830 who was a clerk.

Does anyone know what the occupation "commis" translates to in English?

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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Re: Ahier a priest
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 January 11 02:38 GMT (UK) »
Commis can be either "committed" or "clerk" when translated from French.  The latter is most likely if listed as occupation.

A good way to get translations if using Google is to simply type "translate word" (e.g. "translate commis" in this case) into the search field.

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Re: Ahier a priest
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18 January 11 05:26 GMT (UK) »
Commis can be either "committed" or "clerk" when translated from French.  The latter is most likely if listed as occupation.

A good way to get translations if using Google is to simply type "translate word" (e.g. "translate commis" in this case) into the search field.

Nick

I did use Google language tools and it gave "committed" as the translation. But that translation didn't give me a clue as to what occupation it could be.
Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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Re: Ahier a priest
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 January 11 00:13 GMT (UK) »
Sometimes it is better to use this and Google as they both translate differently...
babelfish says clerk  http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt

Was he training as a catholic priest?
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 January 11 00:21 GMT (UK) »
Sometimes it is better to use this and Google as they both translate differently...
babelfish says clerk   http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt

Thanks JJ.
Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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Re: Ahier a priest
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 19 January 11 09:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi JJ

We do not know, His sister my GGGrandmother who came to England married in an independant Weslian Chapel, but we think that was due to my GGGrandfathers belief.

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Re: Ahier a priest
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 19 January 11 15:24 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat, by the way...
If Wesleyan / methodist they were also called minister/reverend. I don't see one on any of the lists, although if he quit the ministry before death he wouldn't be listed. I think there is an archive you could write to that also lists those ministers...I'll look for it and and if I find it will post it into this reply

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,488811.0.html  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,492917.0.html
I looked in on the threads regarding your ancestors...(Hint*  Don't make numerous postings on the same person. )
It seems you have only one certificate with her maiden name and it was a birth showing her as Heir, so wondering how you found she had a brother?  You also have her on several censuses where she states she's from Jersey, but your family history says she is from France...Don't rely on census or family history, but try and find that marriage to give you searches a kick start...Also get more birth certs if you can find them.
There is nothing found yet on freebmd for her marriage so as was suggested, perhaps you need to look for a marriage in Jersey   They were late with civil registration in the rest of the Channel Islands, but a lot earlier in Jersey, so maybe you could get lucky and get more information.
Jersey registers are held here: Burrard House, Don Street, St. Helier, Jersey, JE2 4TR
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