LLanbeblig Monumental Inscriptions

[lizholt]

Hi,

I wonder if anyone is able to find an MI for John Jones, age 29, buried at Llanbeblig 17 Feb 1862, after being drowned at sea on the ship May Flower? He was my GG Grandfather. Not to be confused with another, older John Jones, the ship's captain was drowned at the same time.

Thanks

Alison

[hiraeth]

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[EmyrBorth]

Hi
From Gwynedd Family History publication MIs Llanbeblig.
Ref. E057

In memory of John Jones, Carpenter, Carnarvon, who was drowned near Puffin Island January 14th 1862 aged 29, and was buried underneath February 17th 1862.
Nos oer ger Ynys Seiriol - a'i daliodd
Nad elai'n ddihangol:
Rhag ewyn moryn marwol
Nid oedd nawn un dydd yn ol.

                                             Eben Fardd

Also John son of the above named by Jane his wife and grandson of Mr Evans, Chandler who died 30th January 1863 aged 5 years.
Er serchus gof am Jane Jones, gweddw yr uchod John Jones yr hon a anwyd Chwefror 24, 1834 ac a hunodd Rhagfyr 31, 1932.
"Yr hyn a allodd hon, hi a'i gwnaeth."

(The Welsh part re. Jane Jones says that she was the widow of John Jones, was born 24th February 1834 and died 31st December 1932.

Capt John Jones, of May Flower is buried a few graves from your John Jones.

EmyrBorth
 

[hiraeth]

Soooo Sad

[lizholt]

Hi
Thank you so much for looking up that information. It's lovely to know that John Jones' headstone is still there, and to have the other details about the family. I hadn't known that Jane's maiden name was Evans, I'd had her down as Williams, so that's going to be really helpful.

It was very sad that John died so young. We have an oil painting of him, painted from a daguerrotype taken just before his last voyage. We also have his Welsh dresser, and his writing desk, which he made himself. His wife, Jane, lived to a good age, and ran a successul tobacconist's shop in Caernarvon.

Thanks again,

Alison

[lizholt]

  Hi, I'd really like to find out more about the 'Mr Evans, Chandler' mentioned in the above M.I., who was apparently the father of Jane, John Jones' widow.
I've looked through the census for 1861 and 1871, for district 3 in Llanbeblig, where the Jones family lived, and which seems to have had a lot of shops etc, but no Evans, Chandler found so far.

I'll keep looking in other district censuses, but if anyone is able to help I'd be really grateful. I assume he would have been born around 1804 - 1814, as Jane was born in 1834.

Thanks

[EmyrBorth]

Hi
Information I've got today has confused me ! I'll get back to you when I've sorted it out.
Emyr

[Keith]

Hi, I'd really like to find out more about the 'Mr Evans, Chandler' mentioned in the above M.I., who was apparently the father of Jane, John Jones' widow.
I've looked through the census for 1861 and 1871, for district 3 in Llanbeblig, where the Jones family lived, and which seems to have had a lot of shops etc, but no Evans, Chandler found so far.

I'll keep looking in other district censuses, but if anyone is able to help I'd be really grateful. I assume he would have been born around 1804 - 1814, as Jane was born in 1834.

Thanks

There is a John Evans, Tallow Chandler at Pool Street and various other addresses in the trade directories: http://www.carnarvontraders.com/tallow.html

Check this reference for 1861 census, could be the right John Evans.

RG9; Piece: 4343; Folio: 81; Page: 4;

[EmyrBorth]

Hi
On gravestone it refers to a Mr Evans,Chandler. I assumed it meant Ship's Chandler. However in report in Welsh language newspaper on finding the body, it refers to John Evans, Canwyllyr, Heol y Llyn. Canwyllwr means Candle Maker, and Heol y Llyn translates to Lake/Pool Street. In a dictionary I've looked up, the term Chandler on its own is defined as, 'A dealer in candles, oil, soap, paint, groceries etc.'
This suggests that the entry referred to by Keith is the right one.
Still have a problem re surnames - no time today to sort that out.
Emyr