Walter Fitzsimons COMPLETED

[EdCan]

I can not find anything on this guy and what I have is not much.
Walter married Elizabeth Barton 8 Apr 1884 St Peter West Hackney. Marriage cert describes Walter as 52,widower and gentleman living Mortimer Rd. His father was Edward Jackson Fitzsimons - gentleman.
Can anyone help?

Ed

[snowball]

Hi - a few apparent refs to father's military career from 1857 to 1870 in the London Gazette:

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/22008/pages/1976

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/22722/pages/1823

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/23580/pages/478

Regards
Rob

[snowball]

Another one - Royal South Lincoln Militia:

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/22176/pages/3902

Rob

[Maryam]

Hi Ed

Here's a possible for Walter in the 1901 Census:

RG13 223 23 37
81 Graham Road, West Hackney
William J RICHES Head 31, Mechanical Photographer, b Kent (crossed out) Woolwich
with wife Julia + 3 children
Walter FITZSIMONS Lodger Widower 72 Debt Collector, b Ireland

KR
Maryam

[EdCan]

Thanks Rob and Maryam

Maryam-the 1901 is in the right area and age is resonably close but he would not be a widow. In 1901 Elizabeth is using her own name and is living with daughter Grace.She is described as widow.Elizabeth dies 27 Dec 1927Islington.

Rob-how do I find Edwards attestation(?) papers

Ed

[Valda]

Hi

1891 census RG12 193 folio 23
11 Clifton Grove Hackney
Walter FitzSimons 62 Head Widower Solicitor Ireland

If the marriage didn't work out they may both for propriety's sake have put widow and widower on census entries. It would be most unusual for a widow to revert to her own name.


Deaths Dec 1906  Fitzsimons  Walter  77  Hackney  1b 321

1881 census RG11 282 folio 65
49 Church Street Stoke Newington Hackney
Walter Fitzsimons 27 Head Married N M Fire Brigade Queenstown Ireland
Sophia G. Fitzsimons 30 Wife Married Ireland
Ada V. Fitzsimons 11 Daughter Greenwich Kent
Walter Fitzsimons 58 Widower Retd? N M Fire Brigade Cork Ireland
 

St George Ryder Fitzsimons and Sophie Geraldine Fitzsimons (both appear in these names on the 1891 and 1901 censuses) married in 1890 at Stoke Newington - Sophie marrying as a widow (propriety's sake again). St George Ryder Fitzsimons' father was Walter a solicitor's clerk. Both St George Ryder Fitzsimons and Sophie died in Croydon registration district.

There doesn't seem any evidence that Walter or St George Ryder/Walter Fitzsimons were in England on earlier censuses?
 
 
Army officers' records and militia records are held at The National Archives. What is mostly online is ordinary soldiers' records. If Edward Jackson Fitzsimons the soldier, was related he looks to have been a sibling or possibly a cousin not a parent.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/britisharmyofficerbefore1913.htm?WT.lp=rg-3140
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/militia.htm?WT.lp=rg-3192


Freeman's Journal and Daily Commercial Advertiser (Dublin Ireland) 12th January 1847
Opening of Hilary Term
Court of Chancery
Attornies taking apprentices
Henry Fitzsimons of Abbey Street in said city gent, to take Walter Fitzsimons son of Edward Jackson Fitzsimons late of the city of Cork esq deceased

same journal 23rd July 1861
Edward Jackson Fitzsimons a Lieutenant in 78th Regiment of Foot stationed in Aberdeen is suing the Great Southern and Western Railway in the Court of Queen's Bench in Ireland. His attorney was Henry Fitzsimons.


Regards

Valda

[Maryam]

Hi Valda

It's possible Sophie/a was telling the truth on the 1890 marriage:

Death Dec Qtr 1885 Hackney Vol 1b Page 294
Walter William FITZSIMONS aged 32

which ties in with the 1881 census.

So did she marry Walter's brother?

KR
Maryam

[Maryam]

There is this marriage on the www.familysearch.org website:

23rd May 1861
Gortroe, Cork, Ireland
Walter FITZSIMONS
Father: Edward FITZSIMONS
Eleanor RYDER
Father: William RYDER
Film #101427

which brings the Fitzsimons and Ryder names together.

KR
Maryam

[Maryam]

And this one from the same site:

20th October 1852
St Paul, Dublin, Ireland
Walter FITZSIMONS
Father: Edward Jackson FITZSIMONS
Elizabeth TARRANT
Father: Thomas Harkin TARRANT