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Re: Walter Fitzsimons
« Reply #9 on: Monday 17 January 11 21:38 GMT (UK) »
Another marriage:

1874 Rathdown
Sophia Geraldine HAMILTON (Sophia's father's surname from marriage to St George Ryder)
Walter William Harris FITZSIMONS
Both Vol 12 Page 782

this seems to be repeated

1875 Rathdown
Sophia Geraldine HAMILTON
Walter William Harris FITZSIMONS
Both Vol 7 Page 814

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Re: Walter Fitzsimons
« Reply #10 on: Monday 17 January 11 22:05 GMT (UK) »
Ada's birth year is wrong in the 1881 census; it should be c1877 ie 4, and she is recorded as 14 in the 1891 census.

St Paul, Deptford
Baptism 21st January 1877
Born 24th November 1876
Ada Violet dau of Walter William H & Sophia Geraldine FITZSIMONS of 462 New Cross Road; father's occ: Gentleman

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Re: Walter Fitzsimons
« Reply #11 on: Monday 17 January 11 22:28 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Valda and Maryam

 I tried to post this earlier but for some reason it did not show up.The Edward Jackson of 78 Foot could not be dad - possibly brother.There is also a marriage 1827 Edward Jackson Fitzsimons and Mary Foott(?) Diocese of Cork & Ross,Co Cork.I am thinking that the 1852 marriage is my Walter prior to the Elizabeth Barton marriage
The 1906 death is likely mine.

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Re: Walter Fitzsimons
« Reply #12 on: Monday 17 January 11 22:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi


If Sophie married two brothers then second marriage was illegal. That would only be made legal in 1921 with the

'Deceased Brother's Widow's Marriage Act 1921'


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Re: Walter Fitzsimons
« Reply #13 on: Monday 17 January 11 23:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ed

It's not clear whether we have one Walter or two, and one Edward or two, is it?

There is this marriage also to throw into the pot, as it were:

1864 Limerick Vol 20 Page 240
Edward Jackson FITZSIMONS

Sorry, I can't guess who he married and I can't see how to cross reference Vols and Pages on the site.

I can see the military records of some Edward Fitzsimons's, hang on....

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Re: Walter Fitzsimons
« Reply #14 on: Monday 17 January 11 23:25 GMT (UK) »
In my message that did not show up I stated that I did not think that Edwrd Jackson of 78 Foot was Walter's dad.Since Walter was born abt 1830 then his father must have been born no later than 1805. The London Gazette 1857 has an Edward Jackson Fitzsimons becoming a Lieutenant. I would think that this would be too old for the father-50+ yrs.Probably a brother(?).

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Re: Walter Fitzsimons
« Reply #15 on: Monday 17 January 11 23:54 GMT (UK) »
Well, these early attestation records aren't much help as although there's dob and pob, no parents / next of kin are shown, which is what I was really hoping for; sorry.  And not one has Edward Jackson Fitzsimons anyway.

How annoying that the Irish censuses were lost/destroyed for the years before 1901  :-\

You may have to view the films of the marriages found for Walter;  the film for Elizabeth Tarrant is #101336.  Hopefully they will contain more detail.

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Re: Walter Fitzsimons
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 18 January 11 08:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi


British army officers records are not online only ordinary soldiers records.
The 1847 extract from the Dublin newspaper indicates that Walter's father Edward Jackson Fitzsimons of Cork was by then deceased. The 1881 census indicates Walter was born in Cork.


Sophie Geraldine's first husband's death registration

Deaths Dec 1885  Fitzsimons  Walter William B  32  Hackney  1b 294



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Re: Walter Fitzsimons
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 18 January 11 09:00 GMT (UK) »
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!