Author Topic: What would our ancestors have worn  (Read 3382 times)

Offline Rod In Sussex

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 321
  • Memento Mori
    • View Profile
Re: What would our ancestors have worn
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 16 April 05 21:43 BST (UK) »
The men wore basically dark knee length trousers, socks and shoes (if they were lucky), a whiteish collarless shirts and a waistcoat and jacket. The sketches by Hogarth gives a very good idea.

As to washing, many Victorian houses had a "copper" in a shed in the yard. This was basically a big pan over an open fire that clothes were boiled in. Most people did not wash their clothes, many only did so a few times a year at most.

But they did not think they smelt as much as you might think! They were all the same, so no one noticed. It was just a natural background. But the smell of modern soap and chemical fresheners etc might be considered a smell by their standards!

The Hogarth link also implies what their world was like.

Rod
Jones, Ellis, Barker, Bates, Hackney, Cooper, Kirk, Eyre, Davies, Harris, Doney & Pearce.
Sussex, Cornwall, Lincolnshire, to name but a few!

Offline Mobo

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,632
  • Family History - the ultimate detective story
    • View Profile
Re: What would our ancestors have worn
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 16 April 05 22:12 BST (UK) »
 :) :) :)

Most ordinary folk back then, were forced to wear second hand clothes,which goes to show that re-cycling is not a modern idea. These wonderful images of a Salford Market in the 1880's, show the sellers and the buyers. 

 :) :) :) 
BUCKLEY, Ches. & Lancs, DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. SWARBRICK, Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs.

All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk)

Offline Mobo

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,632
  • Family History - the ultimate detective story
    • View Profile
Re: What would our ancestors have worn
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 16 April 05 22:16 BST (UK) »
 :D :D

This time we see a solitary boot seller waiting for customers, and three other traders chating while they wait.

 :) :)


BUCKLEY, Ches. & Lancs, DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. SWARBRICK, Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs.

All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk)

Offline ndedross

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 279
    • View Profile
Re: What would our ancestors have worn
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 16 April 05 22:22 BST (UK) »
I can say that my ancestors had no back yard, and if they had any copper they would of sold it.

I have seen sketches from the 1860s of Bethnal Green that show rubbish heaps up to 10 feet high in the streets. So how a person smelt would be immaterial compared to the background. I can't see any of my ancestors using any form of oral hygene, so their breath would add to the ambiance.

Nigel
Dedross. Gallaway. Starling. Singleton. Atkins. Burkinshaw. Chippendale. Shacklock. Lightfoot. Fisher. London. Middlesex. Yorkshire. Switzerland.


Offline bigwood

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 44
    • View Profile
Re: What would our ancestors have worn
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 16 April 05 23:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks Mobo for posting the pictures of Salford markets. 8)
My rels who are visiting from England have ancestors from Salford and appreciated looking at them.

meg  :)
.All Census Lookups are Crown Copyright, National Archives for academic and non-commercial research purposes

Offline Rod In Sussex

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 321
  • Memento Mori
    • View Profile
Re: What would our ancestors have worn
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 16 April 05 23:21 BST (UK) »
Nigel,

I think that even in the crowded back to back slums there would have been one per street/block, near the communal (overflowing) privies. I have seen a plan of such a set up from the 1800s, but cannot recall where. It was the equivalent of a modern laundrette in a tower block and was not personally owned.

Rod
Jones, Ellis, Barker, Bates, Hackney, Cooper, Kirk, Eyre, Davies, Harris, Doney & Pearce.
Sussex, Cornwall, Lincolnshire, to name but a few!

Offline wellie

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 136
    • View Profile
Re: What would our ancestors have worn
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 17 April 05 01:02 BST (UK) »
When I was a young lad we lived in a back to back house in the middle of Birmingham.
In the yard at the back you had two toilets and a wash room for washing clothes. for about ten houses/families.and you could leave your door open with no fear of being killed or robbed
Wellavize- Wellavise- Willavize - Willavise - willavoys all area's

Offline DebbieDee

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 729
  • Hepzibah Annie Burge 1887-1969
    • View Profile
Re: What would our ancestors have worn
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 17 April 05 10:06 BST (UK) »
Nigel,

Which all proves I come from a family of scrubbers!

Same here!  :)

My Dad told me his father's family had a laundry business in the Weston-super-Mare area.  In all the censuses most of the women describe themselves as 'laundress' so there must be some truth in it, but like you I think they probably took in washing at home. 

Debbie

Offline ndedross

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 279
    • View Profile
Re: What would our ancestors have worn
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 17 April 05 12:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the information on the communal laundries - I've added that to my contextual information. In the C19th my family only selected the very worst slums to live in, including The Nichol in Bethnal Green (15 people and 2 pigs sharing a room according to one report of the time).

Debbie - I know that my great grandma had a set of regular clients and had to work from home to look after the kids and grandkids. She took in laundry for over 30 years.

Nigel
Dedross. Gallaway. Starling. Singleton. Atkins. Burkinshaw. Chippendale. Shacklock. Lightfoot. Fisher. London. Middlesex. Yorkshire. Switzerland.