Help ! ! - How do I do this ?

[Geoff E]

IGI has these two

THOS. LUPTON 
  Male     
 Christening:  23 MAY 1812   Dunston, Lincoln, England
 
Parents:
  Father:  JOHN LUPTON  Family
  Mother:  ELIZABETH 

and one baptised in October 1812, son of Edmund and Elizabeth (IGI has suddenly disappeared, so I can't supply any more details).

The one living with Elizabeth in 1841 and 1851 has a brother called Edmund.

The one living in Martin has a son called John.  The one living in Martin is still there in 1871 with wife Ann and son Thomas (although he then says he was born in Dorrington, 6 miles S of Dunston!)

Thomas 59 Cottager and Skinner, Dorrington
Ann 59 Martin
Thomas 27 AgLab, Martin

1861 Martin 2341/65
Thomas 49 AgLab, Dunston
Ann 49
John 25 AgLab, Dunston
Elizabeth 22 Dressmaker
Richard 15 AgLab
Charles 13 AgLab
Susan 11 Scholar
Harriet 9 Scholar
Ann 7 Scholar
Others born Martin

Thomas 18 Carter, Martin is nearby.

Meanwhile in Dunston 1861 (2356/70)

Elizabeth 73 Baker, Dunston

still has Edmund and family, but no Thomas.

I don't think there's too much more to find.  I would hazard a guess that John and Edmund who both had Thomases in 1812 were sons of an earlier Thomas Lupton.

[galiano]

Hi Geoff :

Wow you've done great work.  Thanks again for your help.   What you sent does raise a bit of a puzzle.   Here's what I got from someone else and I think it makes sense but see what you can make of it :

"  One of the Thomas Luptons baptised in 1812 was buried in Dunston 1 Nov 1854 aged 42 yrs.    As Thomas was living with his mother, Elizabeth, widow of Edmund, in 1861, I think it would be safe to assume that it was the son of John and Elizabeth ( baptised 23 May 1812 ) who died prematurely.  "

So now there is a puzzle given you have a Thomas married to Ann still living in Martin in 1871.    Now what ? ?   

[Geoff E]

The 1861 Dunston entry in full (MY transcription from the 1861 census book image - as good as you will get - itself a transcription, as the original census forms were destroyed):

Back Street, Dunston
Elizabeth (head) 73 Baker, Dunston
Edmund (son) 45 AgLab, Dunston
Sarah (dau-in-law) 41 Sturton by Stow
Mary (sis-in-law) 55 Charwoman, Billinghay
John (g-son) 15 Day boy on a farm, Dunston
James (g-son) 12 Scholar, Dunston
Elizabeth (g-dau) 10 Scholar, Dunston

I'm afraid that any suggestion that Edmund's Thomas was still living with his mother in 1861 is erroneous.

[galiano]

The 1861 Dunston entry in full (MY transcription from the 1861 census book image - as good as you will get - itself a transcription, as the original census forms were destroyed):

Back Street, Dunston
Elizabeth (head) 73 Baker, Dunston
Edmund (son) 45 AgLab, Dunston
Sarah (dau-in-law) 41 Sturton by Stow
Mary (sis-in-law) 55 Charwoman, Billinghay
John (g-son) 15 Day boy on a farm, Dunston
James (g-son) 12 Scholar, Dunston
Elizabeth (g-dau) 10 Scholar, Dunston

I'm afraid that any suggestion that Edmund's Thomas was still living with his mother in 1861 is erroneous.

Geoff : I re-checked my notes on the email with the information I quoted and indeed you are correct. ! !     The person offering help previously stated that Thomas Lupton b. Oct 1812 was living with his widowed mother, married brother Edmund and family in  1851 !   Later the email read he was living with them in 1861 as I quoted you.    So " my Thomas"  b. May 1812 did not die in 1854 it was the Thomas b. Oct 1812 who was on the "Edmund" line.

I have to hand it to you, your research on this was impeccable.  You have helped me solve a puzzle and I thank you profusely !   

[Geoff E]

Glad to have been of some use 

Good luck till the next time!