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[greenfinch99]

I wonder if anyone can help - I am researching the Cole family tree from Binsted Hampshire.  I have got back to Stephen (Steven) Cole (and it's variations of that surname spelling) married to Rachel Ford.
I am trying to find Stephen's parents and siblings if possible.  I have been to Winchester records office several times with no luck, searched the internet, but all I can find is the record of their marriage, Stephen Cole b abt. 1740 married to Rachel Ford b abt. 1742 married 4-10-1762 Binsted. 
It's almost as though they came from nowhere.  I have found a Rachel Ford c: 11-7-1752 East Meon, but that would of made her 11 when she got married and her first child Richard was born 1763, so I am dubious this can be the right lady.
I have been searching for a couple of years now with no luck.  I do know that there is a Cole family in Twyford, but I am not sure if there is a connection.
Can anyone help, this is driving me crazy going round in circles?

[dobfarm]

STOCK CHARITY IS NOT THAT FAR FROM BINSTEd AND PARISH OF MARRIAGE IS NOT ALWAYS THE PARISH OF BIRTH

STEPHEN COLE -  BAPT: 20 NOV 1737 Stoke Charity, Hampshire, England PARENTS STEVEN & MARY

You can buy the whole register for Binsted Parish for £3 on CD

http://www.parishchest.com/binsted_-_cd-rom__P91393

[greenfinch99]

Thank you so much for taking the time to reply.
I had seen that Steven from Stoke Charity before but wasn't sure if it would of been too far away, would the Binsted parish records cover Stoke Charity do you know?
I really do appreciate the help, this has been driving me mad.
Sue

[Jeuel]

It was usual for babies to be baptised within a few weeks of birth, but not uncommon for people to be baptised when a bit older.  I've found lots of baptisms for children when they are about 5 (perhaps so they could attend a church school).  So the baptism you found might not mean the bride was 11 at the time of marriage she could be older.  Unless of course the baptism record gives her date of birth too!

[greenfinch99]

Thanks for your help, the Rachel Ford I had found aged 11 was the most likely candidate for me, but the age did worry me, I know that a girl could of been 13 or 14 when they married back then, but 11 did seem a little young.  I hadn't thought of the baptism being later and it hadn't given the date of birth, although I had found somewhere a possible date of birth of 1742 (but can't remember where I got it).
Sue

[dobfarm]

Hi Green

I put the Binsted link in to cover all your Cole ancestors also if Steven is not in it (Ie;- IGI don't have all parish's in there index) then you can then consider other parish's- People did move about them days.

As the member said baptisms are not always the year of birth and some used to baptize the kids in batches 3 at a time even 5 -I have seen in some PR's having had private batisms at home

Workshouses sometimes had birth and baptisms recorded in there record poorlaw books as well.

I know how you feel! My oldest ancestor on my mums side Thomas Tidmarsh  b 1806 and his father Thomas married 1803 and I can't find his bapt around 1765 ! so your in good company> been looking years and have burned rubber on the M1 looking for him! it been re surffaced a few times since.

[greenfinch99]

Thank you so much, all this information has given me food for thought, such a nuisance not being able to be sure whether you have the right link. 
I have looked the Stoke Charity one up and found parents and siblings for this Stephen, all his own children (my Stephen) have the same names as either siblings or parents of both himself (if he is the Stoke Charity Stephen) and Rachel Ford (his wife) EXCEPT their oldest child called Richard, can't find anyone called that in either the Stoke Charity family, or Rachel Ford's family   
Does that make sense?
If I could pin the Richard on a Stoke Charity family member (or Rachel Fords family) I would be sooooooooo happy 
I am glad I am not the only one whose family have arrived from nowhere, makes you wonder where on earth they suddenly appeared from doesn't it.
Sue

[dobfarm]

Something to chew on 

RICHARD COLE
  SARAH PINK 
  Marriage:  27 NOV 1738   West Worldham, Hampshire, England

Either Stephen an unreadable baptisem at Binsted or as below West Worldham
 
Assuming Steven was there first born say West World ham

the first Baptism Binsted for Richard was JOHN COLE  Christening: 13 MAY 1743 Binsted Near Alton, Hampshire, England


 next HANNAH COLE Christening:  18 OCT 1745   Binsted Near Alton, Hampshire, England
 next THOMAS COLE Christening: 26 DEC 1747 Binsted Near Alton, Hampshire, England


There were 3 marriages around 1760's for Stephens one at Ringwood 1766 and there is a Stephen birth/bapt for him about 1740+/-

and one marriage marriage  at Romsey

one at Binsted and the Stoke Charity Stephen bapt 1737 could be either marriage

Last there is a bapt fro a Richard father Thomas in Binsted 1757 but seems late for this Thomas to be Stephens father

[dobfarm]

Its a long shot but I would try and get a copy of this 1738 Richard and Sarah marriage at Westworldham and see who the witnesses were as one or both  could be a sister or brother of Steven in the Binsted bapt sibling of dad Richard.

Southhampton Library should have parish marriage  copies on Film

well good luck in your endeavours 

Dave