Wife of Edward Roberts?

[sheabear]

Hello,

I am looking for help on finding the birth date and place of birth of Edward Roberts, father of Benjamin Roberts (b. 8 Mar 1896) and also finding Edward's wife's name and birth date/place. I know that they lived in Wales, maybe around Holywell.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Shea

[down-under]

1901 RG13/5236 folio 169 page 8 Ryll Flintshire

52 Victoria Row

2 families

Jane Hughes widow age 49 charwoman Llandullus Denbighshire
Sarah Jones Married age 25
Gwladys Hughes dau age  4 Ryll
/
Edward Roberts age 41 widow farm lab all born Bagillt Flint
William John son age 10
Thomas son age 8
Benjamin Roberts son age 5

Pam

[sheabear]

Thank you Pam.

I am now worried I have the wrong information (birth date) for Benjamin, I think he was actually born in 1899.

Thanks again for your help.

[down-under]

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1881 Flint Flintshire reg district Holywell

Edward Roberts age 20 born Bagillt Flintshire collier lodger with the George family

This could be Edward ??
1881 Holywell Flintshire

address Bagillt Road

John Roberts age 53 Ysceifiog Flintshire farm lab
Sarah wife age 54 born Holywell
Thomas son age 25 farm lab Holywell
Edwards Roberts age 20 born Holywell farm lab
Richard son age 18 Holywell farm lab
Sarah A dau age 16 Holywell dressmaker
John son age 13 Grocer appr Holywell

Already written the information of the Roberts will leave it on in case it is correct.

1901 Rg13/ 5212 folio 32 page 55 Connor Quay Flintshire reg district Holywell

Edward E Roberts age 31 Northop coal miner
Maria wife age 30 Belston Staffordshire
Elizabeth E dau age 11 Northop
Harry J son age 9 Northop
Thomas E son age 5 Northop
Hannah dau age 2 Northop
Benjamin Roberts age 7 months born Northop Flintshire[/i]

Regards Pam

[Jo Harding]

Hello sheabear,

BMD has a marriage in Holywell Registration District in the June quarter 1888, Edward Roberts to Maria Whyte Pring.

I cannot find this on North Wales BMD.

A search on BMD did not reveal a a birth for Maria that ties in with the census details.

The best way to obtain the mother's maiden name is to purchase the birth certificate of one of the children.

Jo

[wilcoxon]

This may be well off the track , but the only marriages I found for a Edward Roberts to a Maria was Maria Jones Sep 1888    Leigh.  And one in Holywell  Sep 1888 to Maria White Pring.
Maria Whyte Pring`s  birth was registered  in Holwyell 1865 so it can`t be her.

Leigh is where many Welsh coal miners went to search for work.

Maria Jones / Roberts is born Bilston Staffs, this must  be the same Maria Jones  , there can`t be another Elizabeth Plant.

I can`t find them in 1891 after the marriage and birth of Elizabeth E.

1881 Dublin Row Northop.
Henry Jones 40 coalminer  b Northop
Ellen Jones 39 b Staffs
Maria Jones 11 b Staffs
Benjamin Jones 9 b Northop
George H. Jones 5 b Northop
Elizabeth Plant 16 adopted child b Staffs
 

1871 13 Greencroft , Bilston , Staffs
Ellen Jones 29 unm charwoman b Bilston Staffs.
Maria Jones 1 b Bilston.
Elizabeth Plant orphan 6 scholar b Bilston.

Hmmmm, if this is the right Edward and Maria , they were both very young if the 1888 marriage is right.
Best to get a birth certificate for one of the children to make sure.

THIS DOESN`T SEEM TO BE THE CORRECT FAMILY BUT IT WAS INTERESTING FINDING THEM , AND I`LL LEAVE IT POSTED AS IT MIGHT HELP SOMEONE ELSE.

[Janey2]

Leigh is where many Welsh coal miners went to search for work.

This confirms why my Holywell family have been to-ing and fro-ing to Leigh, over several census!  Thanks for that!

Sorry to butt in on your thread Op, I'm researching Edward Roberts born Whitford married to Mary Elizabeth, but alas no connection to yours I don't think.

[sheabear]

Thanks to all who can contributed. There are so many possibilities and I'm not sure which one I should go with!

The only thing I know about my Welsh Ancestors is Benjamin Roberts had a father named Edward Roberts and that Edward was a Farm Labourer (which was on Benjamin's marriage certificate to Fanny Foster Edwards, which also said they were both living in Connah's Quay). I don't have a birth certificate for Benjamin, but I have his death certificate and it says he died in 1967 aged 69 which would make his birth 1898. I can't buy his birth certificate as I am not sure which Benjamin is correct? The other thing I am 90% sure about is that Benjamin had 2 older brothers who served in the war and were both killed. Benjamin also served in the war in Egypt but came home safely. I had traced two possible families both with Edward as a father and both with older brothers but the one was in Bagillt and that would make Benjamin's birth around 1896 which is too young (but Edward was stated as being a widow and a farm laborer) and the other family had an Edward and Maria as the parents but they had sisters as well as brother which i don't think is correct, and Benjamin's birth was 1900 which also doesn't seem right.

Thanks again to all who are trying to help, it is greatly appreciated. 

[wilcoxon]

The only thing I know about my Welsh Ancestors is Benjamin Roberts had a father named Edward Roberts and that Edward was a Farm Labourer (which was on Benjamin's marriage certificate to Fanny Foster Edwards,

It would be best if you give ALL details you know at first, then it will help find the right one , but the details are there now and may help someone else.

If Edward was a farm worker, then it`s not likely to be the one with a wife Maria from Bilston, as he is a coalminer.

The one found by `downunder` seems to fit .
You could ask for the birth certificate of a Benjamin who`s father is a farmworker. If you deal with the local register office they are usually more helpful.

Do you know the names of the brothers who died, they may be on the War Graves site which sometimes has names of parents.