Percy_veer. Thanks so much for that, it all fits. All the other death certs had same father, James McHolm, cattle dealer. Our family link is through John, one of Joseph's brothers, he would be our greatx2 grandfather. Love it when a mystery gets solved! Just William ( born 1811?) to find. His 1st son was also James, as with the other brothers, so considering the naming pattern, it's a possibility!