Author Topic: Charles Sylvester Bullen abt 1877 Liverpool  (Read 10409 times)

Offline Fiona111

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 4
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Charles Sylvester Bullen abt 1877 Liverpool
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 22 September 13 23:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Marie,

I may be able more information to the story and a further picture of the family!  A relative of mine told me that he had an aunt called Jo (Josephine) Bullen, whose family had shops and made artificial limbs and that she had three children, Winifred, Lizzie and Josephine and that one his aunts brother's in law married someone called Sylvia.  I have a picture from an old album which I was never able to identify and now, thanks to your photos, I see it is Charles Sylvester Bullen with his wife and three of their young children.  I remember that the photo gave the names and ages of the children but I don't have access to the album at present and only remember that one is called Harry.  They are clearly the same family as in my album.  The maiden name of the aunt has to have been either 'Williams' or more likely 'McArdle'. 

I always thought that she must have been a McArdle aunt but now I am not sure.  The story might have got a bit distorted over the years.  Can you see a link to a McArdle or Williams marriage?

Fiona,
Germany.

Offline Ladyhawk

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 11,082
    • View Profile
Re: Charles Sylvester Bullen abt 1877 Liverpool
« Reply #19 on: Monday 23 September 13 15:59 BST (UK) »

I may be able more information to the story and a further picture of the family!

 A relative of mine told me that he had an aunt called Jo (Josephine) Bullen, whose family had shops and made artificial limbs and that she had three children, Winifred, Lizzie and Josephine and that one his aunts brother's in law married someone called Sylvia. 

I have a picture from an old album which I was never able to identify and now, thanks to your photos, I see it is Charles Sylvester Bullen with his wife and three of their young children. 

I remember that the photo gave the names and ages of the children but I don't have access to the album at present and only remember that one is called Harry.  They are clearly the same family as in my album.  The maiden name of the aunt has to have been either 'Williams' or more likely 'McArdle'. 

I always thought that she must have been a McArdle aunt but now I am not sure.  The story might have got a bit distorted over the years.

 Can you see a link to a McArdle or Williams marriage?


Hello Fiona and welcome to Rootschat - Elaine & Marie have not been  on Rootschat for a long while
but if their e-mail is still active they should receive your message & wonderful picture of the Bullen family.

Once you have made three post you will be able to use the personal message system on rootschat to exchange any personal information with Elaine & Maria to use the PM system just click on the scroll.

Don't know if you have this info.

Charles Silverster Bullen otherwise charles Sylvester of 93 Mount Pleasant Liverpool 3 died 18 Nov 1954 Probate Liverpool 4 Dec to Francis Joseph Bullen surgical appliance maker effects £1111 4s. 8d.

Charles Sylvester Bullen Age:   78
Burial Date:   22 Nov 1954 Grave B 67 (Catholic burial)
Parish:   Ford Cemetery

This looks to be the baptism Charles Sylvester Bullen's baptism

Carolus Sylvester Josephus Bullen
Birth Date:   7 Nov 1876
Baptism Date:   12 Nov 1876 Blessed Sacrament (Sacramenti)
Father's Name:   Josephi Bullen
Mother's Name:   Catharina Mc Ardle
Sponsors Carolus McArdle & Elizabeth McArdle

for info. Charles  1902 marriage & details of his children

Carolum Sylvestran Bullen Father Josephi Bullen
Marriage 31 Jul 1902 St Francis Xavier (Francisci Xavarii)
Mariam Francescam Lynch Father Peter Lynch

Josephus Henricus Bullen (Joseph Henry)
Birth Date:   28 Aug 1903
Baptism Date:   6 Sep 1903 St Francis Xavier's (Francisci Xavarii)
Father Caroli Bullen Mother   Mariae Lynch
Sponsors Petrus Lynch & Josephine Bullen
Written in latin under surname (possible marriage  21 Jul 1927 to E Pearson
Her parents Roberto & Francescae Pearson, witness Maria Sylvia Bullen

Son Charles Sylvester married 1926 surname DODD he died age 74 Liverpool in Mar 1980
born 2 Aug 1905

Dau Mary Catherine married 1943 surname REILLY she died age 78  Dudley Staffordshire in Nov 1985
born 20 Jul 1907

Dau Mary Sylvia married 1938 surname QUILLIAM she died age 66 Liverpool in Jun 1975
born 17 May 1909

son Francis Joseph born c 1911

 
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Fiona111

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 4
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Charles Sylvester Bullen abt 1877 Liverpool
« Reply #20 on: Monday 23 September 13 23:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Ladyhawk!

I didn't have all that information.  It is really great.  Now I have a good lead on the McArdle connection and can fit together slightly garbled story on the relationships.  How did you get it together so fast?  That makes a lot clear to me.  The uncle of my relative was Jo and the aunt Catherina (McArdle) Bullen.  Catharina must have had a brother Henry and a sister MarieAnne and a further sister Elizabeth (Lissie) whose married name was Moynagh if I now have the relationships straight.  I will have to try to find the parents to be sure. 

Many thanks for the information on the posts and the personal messages.  I was just wondering how to send a personal message in this system when I read your reply... Perfect timing on your part.

Kind regards,
Fiona.

Offline garstonite

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,013
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Charles Sylvester Bullen abt 1877 Liverpool
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 24 September 13 08:23 BST (UK) »
www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk
roman catholic marriages
1847
ref No 450 - St Peter  Elizabeth McArdle / Thomas Moynagh  - (request form = £3 if you want copy)
1865
ref No 646 -St James ,Bootle  Catherine McArdle to Joseph Bullen -
1877
ref 434 - St Francis Xavier - Henry McArdle to Mary BULLEN  -

five possibles for Mary Ann McArdle....
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford


Offline Ladyhawk

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 11,082
    • View Profile
Re: Charles Sylvester Bullen abt 1877 Liverpool
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 24 September 13 12:30 BST (UK) »

roman catholic marriages
1847
ref No 450 - St Peter  Elizabeth McArdle / Thomas Moynagh  - (request form = £3 if you want copy)
1865
ref No 646 -St James ,Bootle  Catherine McArdle to Joseph Bullen -
1877
ref 434 - St Francis Xavier - Henry McArdle to Mary BULLEN  -

five possibles for Mary Ann McArdle....

can give you a little bit more info, for Elizabeth & Henry's marriage but not for Catherine's  :(

13 Apr 1847 St Peter Priory
Elizabeth McArdle father Peter
Thos Moynagh father John

10 Apr 1877 St Francis Xavier (Francisci Xavarii)
Henricum McArdle father Petri
Mariam Bullen father Hugones
In presence of Joseph Bullen of Walton , Maria Bullen, Alicia Bullen
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Fiona111

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 4
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Charles Sylvester Bullen abt 1877 Liverpool
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 24 September 13 23:07 BST (UK) »
Many thanks garstonite and ladyhawk for the information!  That gives me a great leap forwards.  The web site link is very useful too - I had not found that one until now.
Fiona.

Offline hayler3

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 71
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Charles Sylvester Bullen abt 1877 Liverpool
« Reply #24 on: Friday 18 April 14 16:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Fiona,
Marie has been very helpful in setting up our family tree. It is a beautiful photo of the Bullen family you have posted.In fact it is very special as I think it is the only photo we have of Mary Francis Bullen (nee Lynch).She would have been my great grandmother.Joseph Henry(known as Harry) was my grandfather. He died when I was about four. We have a few McArdles in the family tree. I would be happy to exchange info with you.  I am  new to rootschat so hope this ends up in the right place.
Thanks also to Ladyhawk and others who have helped along the way.

Wendy
Western Australia
Bullens of Liverpool,Pearsons of Liverpool,

Offline Fiona111

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 4
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Charles Sylvester Bullen abt 1877 Liverpool
« Reply #25 on: Friday 18 April 14 20:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Marie,

Your message did end up in the right place! in fact, I found a living descendent of Charles Bullen in Liverpool last year.

Kind regards,
Fiona