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Charles Sylvester Bullen abt 1877 Liverpool
« on: Tuesday 11 January 11 07:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone,
I am trying to help a friend find out about her Grt Grandfather's family.
Charles Sylvester Bullen born we think about 1877 Liverpool. Had half dozen children but we can find no record of his wife. We think he founded some sort of health care company Stomacare?
Found some old photos on the web (that we already had originals of - with nothing on the back of them). He seems very well to do in the pics - though wife is nowhere to be seen in many photos.
I am mystified why I can find no family trees, and nothing on web except for Stomacare info. if family so large and he obviously well known in area.
Son Joseph Henry Bullen is the line, with Lil, Sylvie, another Jo as siblings.
Tried Free BMD and Family Search and Ancestry searches will little result.
Thanks for anyone that can steer me where to look.
Marie
Dewell, Port, Bullen, Collins from Deal, Kent, England

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Re: Charles Sylvester Bullen abt 1877 Liverpool
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 07:42 GMT (UK) »
Would this be him in 1901?

Reference RG13/3480/127/10
50 Eastbourne Street, Everton, Liverpool

Bullen, Joseph  Head  M  59  Accountant  b Waterloo, Lancs
Bullen, Catherine  Wife  F  57  b Liverpool
Bullen, Josephine  Daughter  F  33  School Board Visitor  b Bootle
Bullen, Elizabeth  Daughter  F  28  Clerk in School Board  b Waterloo
Bullen, Winnfred  Daughter  F  26  b Liverpool
Bullen, Charles S  Son  M  24  Surgical Instrument Maker  b Liverpool
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Charles Sylvester Bullen abt 1877 Liverpool
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 07:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi Marie

According to FreeBMD there was a birth of a Joseph Henry Bullen registered in Sep(qtr) 1903 in Liverpool.

Finding the family in the 1911 census will tell you how long they have been married, which may help.

According to the 1911 Directory –

Bullen, Chas S - truss surgical instrument and artifical limb manufctr. 93 Mount Pleasant – Tel: 2197 Royal.

WW1 would have brought in a lot of business. He was still there in 1938.

Ken

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Re: Charles Sylvester Bullen abt 1877 Liverpool
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 07:50 GMT (UK) »
By the time of the 1911 census, Charles Sylvester is a widower - which explains why you can't find a wife.
He has 5 children with him.

Potential marriage:
September qtr 1902, West Derby, Vol 8b, page 928

Bullen, Charles Sylvester to either

Brown, Elizabeth Ann       or
Lynch, Mary Frances
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)


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Re: Charles Sylvester Bullen abt 1877 Liverpool
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 07:51 GMT (UK) »
The 1901 census entry may be incorrect (unless his then wife died) as his marriage is on FreeBMD in Sep(qtr) 1902 in West Derby, either to Elizabeth Ann Brown or Mary Frances Lynch

Ken

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Re: Charles Sylvester Bullen abt 1877 Liverpool
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 07:52 GMT (UK) »
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi

from Lancashire BMD

1902 BULLEN Charles S   LYNCH Mary F   West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended   Liverpool

death Mar q 1911 Liverpool
Mary F BULLEN age 34 (1877)

possibly died during/after child birth last child born 1911 Francis Joseph BULLEN

Couldn't find a match for  Mary F LYNCH born 1877 but wondering if this could be her on 1901 census as Charles S BULLEN living in Eveton, Liverpool in 1901, obtaining marriage certificate would confirm father's name

1901 census
16, Harewood Street, Everton

LYNCH, James mar. M 60 1841 Foreman Bottler (Mineral Waters) Ireland
USHER, Mary A Mother-In-Law Widow F 84 1817 Ireland
LYNCH, Mary Daughter Single F 23 1878 Housekeeper Oxton Cheshire
MARGRAVE, Geo Hy Boarder Single M 21 1880 Bookstall Manager Bradford
MCARDLE, Phillip Grand Son M 2 1899 Liverpool
 
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Re: Charles Sylvester Bullen abt 1877 Liverpool
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 08:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

1881 Census has the family at 68 Yew Tree Road, Walton -

Joseph Bullen - 39 - Financial Agent
Catherine Bullen - age 37
Mary C A Bullen  - age 15
Josephine Bullen- age 14
Joseph Bullen - age 11
Mary W Bullen - age 6
Austin Bullen - age 5
Charles S Bullen - age 4
Anne Bullen - age 1

Also a servant - Mary Cunningham

Have you looked at Genes Reunited - I can see some references to the family on that site and it may help if your friend were to consider this as an option?

Alan

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Re: Charles Sylvester Bullen abt 1877 Liverpool
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 09:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

1891 Census has the family at 27 Erskine Street, West Derby with 2 additional girls at home -
Elizabeth and Jane (both age 18 - twins?). Joseph and Mary C A seem to have flown the nest.

Austin died in 1881 age 6.

Head of the family Joseph is described as an Estate Agent.

Alan

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Re: Charles Sylvester Bullen abt 1877 Liverpool
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 11:30 GMT (UK) »
Wow - all in a few hours...Thank you all so very much for your time and know-how.

So Charles S Bullen (1877 - ) married Mary F Lynch (abt 1877 – 1911) in
In 1881 he was 68 Yew Tree Road, Walton-On-Hill, Lancashire
1891 with parents at 27 Erskine St. West Derby, Lancashire,
In March 1901 with parents at 50 Eastbourne St., Everton, Lancashire, as a Surgical Instrument Maker
In Sept 1902 he married Mary F Lynch (abt 1877 – 1911) in Lancashire.
They have:
Joseph Henry Bullen in 1903
Francis Joseph Bullen in 1911
By 1911 he was widowed and living in 93 mount Pleasant, Liverpool with 4 males and 5 females, still as a Truss Surgical Instrument and Artifical Limb Manufactr.


Km1971
Where did you find that Charles S Bullen in 1938, he was still truss surgical instrument and artifical limb manufctr. 93 Mount Pleasant?

KGarrad
Where did you see that he is a widower? I saw the brief 1911 census and the one I saw says 4 males and 5 females living in house….how did you get more info…is there another 1911 source I should be looking at…I was just going via the Ancestry Census list that says 1911 England Census Summary Books

For anyone interested, these are the copies of our photos on below site but unable to contact person who loaded. Lil, Sylvie, Jo etc are names we know but can’t work out where they go.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12455692@N00/
So I will look on Genes to see if I can see if I can find any other children of Charles S Bullen and wife Mary between 1903 and 1911. I think there are another 3 or 4 in there to find but obviously can’t use England census info. I will go through Bullen births on the fantastic Lancashire BMD listed – thanks for that link.
So many thanks,
Marie
Perth, Western Australia
Dewell, Port, Bullen, Collins from Deal, Kent, England