Ladykirk Farm 1851

[Violetta]

Hi
Thankyou.  If you go to page three of the Ladykirk farm thread and at bottom there are two photos.  One of George junior my grandfather and one of John his father - Christians brother.  I am convinved Christian married her cousin.  Look through the pages of the thread it might be helpful to you.

will be in touch.
Violetta

[beagriff]

I have found a daughter born 1897 called Ellie, living with Ann and David and Jane.  I have not found out yet if she is the daughter of David or Jane.  On the census for 1901 it shows the name Ellis but it says she is the niece of Ann.  I think this is right but have not found out anything else about her, or if David Fish was married.

[Violetta]

I think I discovered this as well. I will ask my mother if she knows anything - all she remembers is her father talking about an Uncle Dave.  I found a David Fish in prison in Berwick around the right time but don't knnow if it was the same one!

I am now going to go through all my notes so will let you know anything new I discover.

Violetta

Did you see the photos?  Hope you got my message. pg 3.

[Violetta]

Beagriff

Re your research into David Smith - according to my mother he did marry and went elsewhere-she doesn't know location.  She has no knowledge of Ellie or Jane.  Have discovered that Ann Fish senior was innkeeper at the neighbouring village of Etal at the now well known Black Bull pub.  Not sure when though.

[Scrivener]

I have found a daughter born 1897 called Ellie, living with Ann and David and Jane.  I have not found out yet if she is the daughter of David or Jane.  On the census for 1901 it shows the name Ellis but it says she is the niece of Ann.  I think this is right but have not found out anything else about her, or if David Fish was married.

Hello... I have read through this Ladykirk thread with great interest.  My great-great grandfather was John Clay (1797-1866) who was the son and grandson of tenant farmers of large farms in the area.  John married Ann Young Wilson (1796-1870)  My great-great grandmother in 1822.  Ann Young Wilson was "an orphan raised by her uncle, Young- tenant at Ladykirk"- quoted from 'John Clay: A Scottish Farmer (1906)'  I would be grateful to know who was "Young- tenant at Ladykirk"... he would have been the tenant at Ladykirk in around 1820.

Ann Young Wilson's father was Charles Wilson and her mother was 'Ann'.  I am seeking the dates and places of birth and marriage and death of Ann Young WIlson's parents.

I would very grateful for any help with this!!

[Scrivener]

Hi Alan

The family only remained at Ladykirk Farm for a short while. I think that we've traced them all back to Northumberland.


Gadget

Hello... I have read through this Ladykirk thread with great interest.  My great-great grandfather was John Clay (1797-1866) who was the son and grandson of tenant farmers of large farms in the area.  John married Ann Young Wilson (1796-1870)  My great-great grandmother in 1822.  Ann Young Wilson was "an orphan raised by her uncle, Young- tenant at Ladykirk"- quoted from 'John Clay: A Scottish Farmer (1906)'  I would be grateful to know who was "Young- tenant at Ladykirk"... he would have been the tenant at Ladykirk in around 1820.

Ann Young Wilson's father was Charles Wilson and her mother was 'Ann'.  I am seeking the dates and places of birth and marriage and death of Ann Young WIlson's parents.

I would very grateful for any help with this!!

[Scrivener]

I was brought up in the next Scottish Parish to Ladykirk and know all of the places you have mentioned very well.  What does not seem to have come out is that Ladykirk is in Ladykirk parish which is in Berwickshire, Scotland.  You may therefore need to broaden your search.  Incidentally while there is a Ladykirk Estate there is no Ladykirk farm as such but there are Old Ladykirk, New Ladykirk, Ladykirk Shiels on the Estate.
Hope that helps.
Alan

Hello Alan... I have read through this Ladykirk thread with great interest.  My great-great grandfather was John Clay (1797-1866) who was the son and grandson of tenant farmers of large farms in the area.  John married Ann Young Wilson (1796-1870)  My great-great grandmother in 1822.  Ann Young Wilson was "an orphan raised by her uncle, Young- tenant at Ladykirk"- quoted from 'John Clay: A Scottish Farmer (1906)'  I would be grateful to know who was "Young- tenant at Ladykirk"... he would have been the tenant at Ladykirk in around 1820.

Ann Young Wilson's father was Charles Wilson and her mother was 'Ann'.  I am seeking the dates and places of birth and marriage and death of Ann Young WIlson's parents.

I would very grateful for any help with this!!

[Violetta]

Hello. I was most interested to  read your information about Ladykirk Farm.  My great grandmother was married to David Young before she married my grt grandfather George Smith.  As you can see from previous threads ( I have not revisited this for a considerable time so forgive me for being very rusty on this) they had a daughter Helen Young. (I don't know what happened to her  but she did live with her mother and step father.  Several of my great uncles were born at Ladykirk farm.  My own great grandfather was in fact born at Ancroft Farm just over the border in Northumberland.  I see mention of the family Fish - as yet I have not researched my great grandmother  who was was a Fish.  I don't know why they left the farm at Ladykirk - perhaps you have some information ?  I'm sorry I can't be of help in your research .

[Scrivener]

Hello Violetta,
Was David Young's father or perhaps his grand father the tenant farmer of Ladykirk around 1820?  I have no information at all regarding any family with the surname Fish- interesting name... 
 
You mentioned in an earlier post that "They lived at New ladykirk Farm.  It belonged to/ or leased by Georges wife 's first husband  David Young b 11.11.1833."  ...so this David Young could not have been the tenant farmer uncle of Ann Young Wilson who "raised" her. 

John Clay and Ann Young Wilson married 11 Oct 1822. Ann was born approx. 1811 per the 1841 England Census.