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Re: James Isted & wife Mary x 2 Who's who?
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 20 January 11 02:33 GMT (UK) »
You have obviously put in some time & effort with this Jan, So thank you very much for the same :D.

This morning after receiving your reply, I did two things: one was to go into the old LDS
igi search field and downloaded 23 James Isted's chr.data from 1770  - 1806. The only
helpful one was for James chr. 25 Feb. 1780. East Grintead. Secondly, I did a Google search for Isted Sussex. In all of those links, there was one called " Weald " which is the family tree that this James is shown. Since he is one of the James involved, I thought, what a great way to eliminate some of the children. Sadly :'( There are only three Shown in his line, Sarah 1803, William 1808 And Frances 1830. ( what a massive jump ) all were
chr. in East Grinstead. There was also a Sarah chr. in 1810 ( LDS igi ) I wonder if she is
another line or, replacing the earlier Sarah who may have died infant?

To me it seems that there are children missing, though I may well be quite wrong.

Now back to the now 22 James Isted's, which I have narrowed down to five.

There were five chr. in Horsted Keynes: Sophia 1813, Harriet 1816, Hannah 1819,
William 1825, and John 1828.

( Mary Istead, born 29 Jan.1829
( Mary Istead, chr. 09 Feb. 1829     West Hoathly

( Ann Istead, born 06 June 1810     West Hoathly
( Ann chr. 29 July 1810

Edward Isted, chr. 28 April 1822      West Hoathly


Mary Isted, chr. 1840              Worth
Elizabeth, chr. 1848                Worth

This last group I believe could be in my wifes line

James Isted chr. 06 Oct.1806
Mary           chr. 11 April 1813
George       chr.  04 June 1815 the earliest proven ancestor
John            chr. 25 Oct. 1818


When I look at my wifes line of descent, there is no comparison with all of the others,
( namewise ).

Looks like I have a cold case on my hands Jan. :(

Best wishes,

Wozza :D






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Re: James Isted & wife Mary x 2 Who's who?
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 20 January 11 09:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Wozza

I agree that there appear to be missing children in the two families, suggesting some were born elsewhere. But I take it your feeling is that neither family is the right one? or am I misunderstanding something? Whatever the case it would be best to go back to the earliest proven ancestor you name - George baptised 4 June 1815 and start again, he's the one baptised in Dallington right? This is unfortunately in East Sussex so I can't check the registers for you, it is also quite a distance from East Grinstead (in English terms!) so quite likely to be a different family. The other 3 you list in the same group as George - James 1806, Mary 1813 and  John 1818 are they also from Dallington?

I will give it some more thought
Jan ;)

I've found your George thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,503928.msg3606921.html#msg3606921

So will post anymore thoughts I have there as reading through it I think the East grinstead/West Hoathly family can be discounted, which is something :)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: James Isted & wife Mary x 2 Who's who?
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 20 January 11 10:53 GMT (UK) »
G'day again Jan. No, James, Mary and John were all chr. in East Grinstead.

If you don't mind I'll list the family Members ( confirmed ) that I have to date.

They are, George, son of James & Mary, Thomas James 1859, Charles Henry 1861, sons of
George & Mary ( nee Morley ). George William 1883, Harry 1887, Tom 1889, Fred 1893,
Charlie 1897. All Reg. at Battle, except Charlie, ( Reg. Steyning ) Sons of Thomas James
and Catherine ( nee Turner ). Elsie M, 1912, George F,1916, Dorothy B, 1920 children of
George William & Edith Susan ( nee Saunders ). Charles Henry,1880, died 1906, George
William,1884, Mary, 1886, James, 1889, Frederick John,1893, Kate, 1896, Alfred Thomas,
1900, children of Charles Henry & Mary ( Polly) ( nee Champion ). George William, b1884
married Katherine Murphy in 1909 and came out to Australia in 1910, followed in 1912, by
his brothers James, Fred' John & Alfred Thomas. In 1921 their parents Charles Henry and
Mary came out as well. The rest of the afforementioned remained in Sussex.

Surprisingly, there are other Isted families out here that are non related.

Anyway, you can see what I meant about the naming pattern.


Best wishes, Jan.

Wozza







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Re: James Isted & wife Mary x 2 Who's who?
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 20 January 11 11:09 GMT (UK) »
OK just checked back through my notes and see theat John 25 Oct. 1818 and Mary 11 April 1813 are two of the confirmed baptisms for children of the James and Mary of Butlers Farm East Grinstead and this James and Mary are still in East Grinstead in 1861.  Given that your George remains in Dallington/Ashburnam and Swebby found burials for a James and Mary in Ashburnam who are of an age to be George's parents I don't see that the two families can be connected.

I would definitely go back to your East Sussex thread on the Ashburnam/Dallington families and explore them more and leave the East Grinstead/West Hoathly lot on the back-burner - pretty sure they are just adding to the general confusion :D

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge