Walter & Eva Winchester

[*Sandra*]

Canadian Passenger Lists - for Thomas Proudfoot. Born about 1855 Age: 53
Liverpool. England to  Halifax, Nova Scotia and St John, New Brunswick. Date of Arrival: 28 Mar 1908
on SS Corsican.

and  Margt Proudfoot. Born about 1855 Aged 54 years
Travelling from Liverpool to Halifax. Nova Scotia - Date of Arrival: 27 Apr 1909 on SS Victorian.
Also travelling Sidney Proudfoot aged 16 years.


Not sure on this one but its the only Lillian Winchester I came across   : Lillian Winchester. Born about 1882 Aged 28 years.
Travelling Liverpool to St Johns, New Brunswick. Date of Arrival: 19 Feb 1910 on SS  Empress of Ireland. Going to Fort William. Ontario. Occupation:- Nurse.

1901 UK - Proudfoot family in Crook. Durham where Lillian was born

Address 86 High Hope

Thomas Proudfoot 46 (Coke Yard - Labourer)  Margaret Proudfoot 46
Fred Proudfoot 23 - Betsey Proudfoot 17 - Lilian Proudfoot 14 - Albert Proudfoot 12 -  Sidney Proudfoot 8

[*Sandra*]

Albert was married to Lorna Doone Berry. Albert born 7th July 1913. Parents Walter Winchester and Lillian Proudfoot.


http://www.rootschat.com/links/0b81/

[*Sandra*]

Another link for the death of Albert Winchester

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0b82/

[Lisa in California]

I understand "forgetting" one's year of birth, but I wonder why someone stated he was born in August? (1911 census)

Unless, he wasn't actually born in October (as was stated on his WWI card)?

[*Sandra*]

Looking at a family tree which has him under Walter William Winchester Vicborn he also has 3 other wives -    The UK BMD Record is Q4 so Oct - Nov Dec 1874  9d 472  - makes the October one look correct 

[Lisa in California]

I just closed the sites, but I believe (in 1911) Walter stated he was born August 1882, immigrated 1906.
Also living in Winnipeg was an Albert Winchester, born August 1882, England, immigrated 1906.  It looks like he was married to Lilly E Winchester.
 

[*Sandra*]

Looks like the parents Walter Winchester and Isbaella Vicborn married  June 1875 Guisborough. Yorkshire - 9d 791. Walter (1874) lives with the Grandparents - Fred Vicborn and Henriette in 1881 and does'nt appear to live with the parents in 1891 or 1901 either.
The brothers or step-brothers were Alfred and Arthur on those census. Alfred died in WW1 and his widow goes on to marry Arthur Winchester. 
Could'nt see either brother/step-brother on passenger lists. Looks as if Arthur died in England. 

[fo55ie]

Wow

Dear *Sandra* and Lisa in California

Thank you so much for your help - just amazing - so much to take in

Walter was a Lunatic Asylum Nurse in London before emigrating on the Baltic in April 1910 - Lillian may have worked with Walter before emigrating with her family.

From his "marriage" to Eva Winchester nee Jones, we have come to terms with Walter using numerous dates of birth

To our knowledge we believe that Walter Winchester was the only one from this side of the family to emigrate - The Vicborns are another story 

If Lillian arrived in February 1910 at Ontario Canada and Walter arrived in April 1910 in USA - and from 1911 Census it shows that they are already married - prearranged or whirlwind romance

Are you able to confirm when and where Lillian and Walter were married - assume Canada

Also, is there any records for Lillian Winchester death

Arthur died in 1943 Romford Essex England

Thanks again
Chris

[*Sandra*]

Hello Chris,

Your most welcome. Pleased to have been able to unravel a little more.   It is strange that on the April 10 Passenger List when Walter lands in New York (written faintly) is what looks like going to sister Lillian Winchester but his marital status is single.   Have'nt seen any references to a marriage in Canada but that does'nt mean to say there isn't one.
Unfortunately the privacy laws in Canada are quite strict so it is difficult to find further information.   Also Lillian could have remarried and be under a different name when she died.   Sorry could'nt be more helpful along those lines. 

Regards
Sandra