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Re: Walter & Eva Winchester
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 12 January 11 12:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandra

Do you think that I could order the appropriate Canadian marriage or death certificate/s for Lillian and Walter, if they are not available on line

Thanks, again

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Chris

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Re: Walter & Eva Winchester
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 12 January 11 12:06 GMT (UK) »
Hello Chris,

Think we need to find out if there is a marriage first and where that marriage was.   Perhaps an enquiry on the Canada Board cross-referencing this thread would help with that.  It may also throw up some further information on the son as well.

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Re: Walter & Eva Winchester
« Reply #20 on: Friday 14 January 11 17:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandra

Found that Walter William Winchester married Lilian Proudfoot in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada on 5th May 1911

They had a son Albert Winchester born 7th July 1913, who passed away on 25th October 1949 in Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada

It seems that each Canadian province has their own rules, as access in viewing vital records - Do you know if this is correct

Also finding it hard to purchase a copy of Walter & Lilian marriage cert on line

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Chris

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Re: Walter & Eva Winchester
« Reply #21 on: Friday 14 January 11 17:45 GMT (UK) »
Hello Chris,

That is good news, it also confirms the birth of Albert who was on the 1916 Census in reply 6 and his death in reply 10.
Canada has very strict privacy laws - Manitoba I believe has the following restrictions applying for certain  records:

Births less than 100 years ago - Marriages less than 80 years ago - Deaths less than 70 years ago

One site I came across was $25 for a copy for genealogy purposes but I am not sure if they have restrictions on who can apply for these copies.  I will ask a friend in Canada and they will advise you better than I can of the cheapest  way to get a copy of the marriage if that is possible.  The birth certificate for Albert you would'nt be able to get under the 100 year rule.

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Sandra


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Re: Walter & Eva Winchester
« Reply #22 on: Friday 14 January 11 18:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Re:  Reply #20

I am assuming you found the marriage on the Manitoba Vital Events website.  Anything on that database can be purchased with no restrictions and I believe the cost is $12 Cdn if they do not have to perform any searches.  Just follow the instructions on that page (locate, add to cart, print out form and fax or mail it to Vital Statistics).  Having said that, the site is performing miserably for me at the moment....very slow and then I get an error message.  They may be doing some maintenance at the moment or having some technical difficulty.  Keep trying as I know it works.

http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php

I can do the lookup of the death in BC of Albert Winchester and give you a transcription of the death registration.  I am planning to go to my local FHS library next week so should be able to do it then.

You are correct in your observation that there are no central registries/indexes in Canada for BMDs.  As Sandra said, Canada has very strict privacy laws and each province imposes its own even further.  Additionally, some provinces are more research friendly than others so researching in Canada can be challenging.

Continued good luck.

Susan





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Re: Walter & Eva Winchester
« Reply #23 on: Friday 14 January 11 19:31 GMT (UK) »
Hello Susan,

Grateful thanks for checking that out it is very much appreciated - think I understand about the fees now.  ;)

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Re: Walter & Eva Winchester
« Reply #24 on: Friday 14 January 11 19:47 GMT (UK) »
Dear Susan and Sandra

Problem is shipping, as I am UK based  :(

I need to get a "quote" for it to be sent to England - as they do not sell them and issue soft copies - do not have facilities to contact them direct by phone

Thanks Susan for your offer - I think I have found Albert Death Cert on a Vancouver vital web-site

I would love to find Albert Winchester marriage certificate to Lorna Doona Berry - but I think they may have married in a different provience and consequently this record not yet available due to it privcy laws

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Re: Walter & Eva Winchester
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 15 January 11 00:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi Chris

I'm putting a link to the actual "Request for Copy of Genealogy Record" page from the Manitoba Vital Stats site.  There is no mention of shipping and handling costs and I'm wondering if they have that factored into the $12 fee.  On the page, there is all the contact information....address, telephone number, fax number and email address for inquiries.  While you cannot order online, you could send them an email asking if there was an additional cost to mail to the UK and find out how much it is.  It doesn't cost much to post one sheet of paper to England and I'm sure that over the years they have sent hundreds to international addresses.

http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/GenealogyRequest.php

With regard to Albert's death registration, were you referring to the BC Archives site or the pilot family search site?  You will not find any images on either of those sites for BC deaths....they are both indexes.  If you order from the BC Archives, it could cost you up to $30 (I think) to get a copy.  I can look up the same microfilm at my Family History Society library and give you a transcription for free.  The BC death registrations contain a lot of information that most researchers find very useful.

http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-50EEE3F/gbsearch
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c=fs%3A1538285

The offer still stands.

You're correct that Albert's marriage registration (assuming that he married in a province where you can find the record) won't be available for a few years given his age. 

Susan




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Re: Walter & Eva Winchester
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 16 January 11 20:08 GMT (UK) »
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