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Walter & Eva Winchester
« on: Saturday 08 January 11 07:35 GMT (UK) »
Dear Rootschat

Please could I request assistance in finding Walter William Winchester and Eva Winchester (nee Jones), after 1920

They were married at Grosse Pointe Wayne County Michigan USA on 5th Feb 1919

On the 1920 USA Census there are recorded as living in Wayne County Michigan

Walter was born in Marske, Yorkshire England in 1874 but had we believed that he maybe have been "younger" when he married Eva Jones

Eva was born in about 1896 Llandyssil Montgomeryshire Wales and emigrated to USA with her family (Sisters Elsie & May, Parents Richard & Alice) in the early 1900's

Any help to find Walter & Eva after 1920's would be greatly appreciated

Thanks in advance

Regards
Chris

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Re: Walter & Eva Winchester
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 02:45 GMT (UK) »
I cannot find them after 1920.  Just to state facts (in case it helps locate them after 1920):
Border Crossing from Canada to the U.S., arriving September 1916, Walter Winchester, age 41, St Car Motorman, born Marske.  Final destination: Detroit, Michigan.

I'll have another look later tonight.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Walter & Eva Winchester
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 11:06 GMT (UK) »
Were there two Walters?
1920 Detroit Ward 21, Wayne Co., Michigan
Walter W Winchester, age 37, born England, immigrated 1905, Foreman, Ascel or Axel Co.
Eva, wife, age 24, born England, immigrated 1913
740 Drexel Avenue

WWI Draft Card
Walter Winchester, born October 7(?), 1874
Address: 182 Glover Avenue, Detroit; Declared Alien, British
Mrs. Lillian Winchester, wife
General Foreman, Maxwell Motor Car Co.
Medium height, medium build, blue eyes, dark hair
September 12, 1918

There are no deaths on the social security index for a Walter Winchester, born October 7 (between 1873 and 1885).  I do not see a Lillian or Eva, born prior to 1899.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Walter & Eva Winchester
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 11:25 GMT (UK) »
Someone on another site posted the WWI information.  They also added that he was born Walter William Winchester Vicborn.  He apparently died in 1963 in New York/Canada.

I cannot find him either as a Winchester or as a Vicborn, I'm sorry.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)


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Re: Walter & Eva Winchester
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 11:48 GMT (UK) »
Reply 1 mentions a Border Crossing in 1916 - it says Walter had been in the USA in 1910 arriving on the Baltic - Looks like he was going to St Johns University. Detroit.  Occupation Street Car Motorman.  Also mention the relative from country whence came as wife - Lillian- 330/5  ??? Atlantic Avenue. Winnipeg. Manitoba. Place of birth Marske.

The 1910 New York Passenger List  - Walter William Winchester. (In Transit) Born about 1875 York. England. Aged 35 years. Port of departuire :- Liverpool Arriving New York 11 April 1910 on SS Baltic. Occupation engine fitter. Brother Mr A Winchester. 91 Albert Road. West Woolwich. Final destination Madoc. Quebec  ??? He was going to join Lilian Winchester (sister)  ???
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Re: Walter & Eva Winchester
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 11:56 GMT (UK) »
1911 census 334 Atlantic Ave. Manitoba

Walter Winchester 36 Born England. August. Inspector. Anglican. NA
Lillian Edminster 24 Born England. May. Anglican


Added The Proudfoot family are above them on this Census
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Re: Walter & Eva Winchester
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 12:03 GMT (UK) »
1916 Census of Winnpeg. Mantioba - 335  Attautin


Thomas Proudfoot  61 Head. Born England. Immigrated 1906
Margaret Winchester  62 Wife. Born England. Immigrated 1910
Lillian Winchester (Proudfoot) 29  Born England, Immigrated 911
Albert Winchester  3 Born Manitoba
Albert Proudfoot  28 Roomer
George Topping  31 Roomer
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Re: Walter & Eva Winchester
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 12:10 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for looking for them in Canada, Sandra.  I didn't try that.  ;)
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Walter & Eva Winchester
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 12:23 GMT (UK) »
Albert Winchester, died October 25, 1949, age 36, place: Vancouver, British Columbia.
http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-3AD55C4/search
I wonder if this was Lillian's son?
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)