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Frizelle family
« on: Wednesday 05 January 11 18:11 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to trace the origins of the Frizelle family from New Ross and Eniscorthy. I have some names going back to the 1720s which include Sutton, Nicholas and a Charles and Martin but I am keen to know where they came from as it is clearly not an Irish name. Any help and suggestions gratefully received.
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Re: Frizelle family
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 05 January 11 18:16 GMT (UK) »
I think Frizelle is of French origin- possibly Huguenot.
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Re: Frizelle family
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 05 January 11 18:21 GMT (UK) »
from MacLysaght's Irish Surnames :

  Frizell : (Norman-French the Friesian) Families of this name were established in Munster in the 13th Century and gave their name to Frieselstown in Co. Limerick. They subsequently became scattered.


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Re: Frizelle family
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 05 January 11 18:30 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for these replies. I have come across many variations of the name Frizelle, Frizel, Frizzel etc but did not realise that it could be Norman. It was suggested at one time that they came from Alsace-Lorraine...
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Please if any one else has ideas about this, do post them...but thanks
PatriciaCP


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Re: Frizelle family
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 January 11 06:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi Patricia

My name is Terry Condio. My great-grandmother was Margaret Frizelle of New Ross. Charles and Martin are in my family tree. Are you related to Owen Frizelle or Carol Farmer? Is Catherine Fitzhenry and Johanna Roche in your family tree?

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Re: Frizelle family
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 16 January 11 16:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I am delighted to hear from you.
My Mother was Kathleen Frizelle b1908 and her parents Thomas Frizelle and Mary Cullen came from New Ross. I live in England but am only in contact with one current member of the Frizelle family in that area - she  is Jenny Frizelle daughter of James b.(*). He is brother of an OWEN FRIZELLE and son of Sam b.1905.

CATHERINE FITZHENRY  certainly is on our tree as the second wife of a Nicholas Frizelle ( ?1800- 1880) of New Ross who worked in Customs. His first wife was Monica Wall (d?1825)
This Nicholas Frizelle  was son of another Nicholas ( aren't there dozens of them!) and Ann Williams who was the brother of the 2 hanged rebels Charles and Martin.
I don't see a Carol Farmer or Johanna Roche but I don't have a full tree and what I have  is full of question marks.. An uncle of mine ( Uncle Nicholas) did some research which he passed to me before he died about 20 years ago but it is very incomplete and I only took it up again recently as I hope to be in New Ross myself this year ( I am a travel journalist). 
I was delighted to learn via this site, that the family dates back to Nooman times
Do keep in contact and let me know where you live. ( I don't know if  we are supposed to give our email addresses - do you? ) but I am sure we must be distantly related.
best,
Patricia

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Re: Frizelle family
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 23 January 11 07:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi Patricia

We are definitely related. I have been in contact with Owen Frizelle. My mother (*), is the granddaughter of Margaret Frizelle. Margaret Frizelle was the daughter of Patrick Frizelle (brother of Nicholas Frizelle) and Johanna Roche. Patrick's father was Nicholas Frizelle and Catherine Fitzhenry. Very Norman names I must say.

I was born in Vancouver, Canada like my father. My father, (*),  and my mother, (*), who are 87 and 86 live in Vancouver as well. My brother lives a short ferry ride away. My mother is a war bride who came to Vancouver in 1946.

Travel journalism sounds like a very interesting job. I am an accountant. I (*)

Take care for now
Terry
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Re: Frizelle family
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 17 July 11 15:23 BST (UK) »
Hi

Cornelia Frizell of Rochestown Old Ross was married to William Elmes of Ballymullin High constable for Wexford. [her will dated 1769] she was the Daughter of [or sister of]? Joseph Frezell of Rochestown, and in the book "Old Ross the town that never was"
The Frezells were a German Palatine family refugees given land in Ireland Cirda 1709 by the English Government who looked on colonization as a solution to the Irish problem
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PS I tried to send a copy of the will but I was unsuccessful

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Re: Frizelle family
« Reply #8 on: Monday 18 July 11 23:12 BST (UK) »
As I have posted in the Elmes of Rochestown, Old Ross, the Frizelles & Elmes family were indeed palatine refugees from Germany who were given Farm Lands in Old Ross area belonging to Lord Ram. Please Contact The Rector St. marys Church of Ireland, The Rectory, College Road, new Ross, Co. Wexford, who would keep the Parish registers for St. Marys church of Ireland ,Old Ross which would have been their place of worship. Also many palatine families were massacred at Scullabogue barn, during the 1798 rebellion. There is a monument to them in the grounds of St .Marys Church of Ireland, Old Ross which was erected in 1998.  Lord Ram actually lived  outside Gorey , Co. Wexford, but had a very large estate in the Old Ross area which was colonised by the Palatine families. A glance at the Old Ross parish registers shows the names Elmes, Frizelle, Hornick, Hess, Hartrick,  intermarriage was common between these families.