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Looking for burial place
« on: Tuesday 04 January 11 15:45 GMT (UK) »
Bit of a long shot this one but here goes.

I'm looking for the burial place of a great Uncle, John Edwin KING d.o.b. 23 August 1897 in Bethnal Green. He died on 23 December 1938 (age 41) at St. Alban’s Hospital, Napsbury, Hertford.

I have checked with St Albans District council cemetery office and they can find no trace of him.

A family member suggested he may have been buried in the Tottenham area of London as that was where he was living prior to hospital admission. I have checked with Haringey council and there is no trace at the cemeteries covered by them. They in turn suggested Islington and Southgate.

There is no trace of him at New Southgate cemetery and a check at with Old Southgate has proved negative. So far, I've been unable to get a response from Islington.

Just wondering if anyone has any ideas of where I could check next.

Many thanks


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Re: Looking for burial place
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 05 January 11 17:45 GMT (UK) »
He might have been cremated.  If you've looked in the places where he died and where he was living previously, I'd suggest you look for family graves, he may have been tucked in with an existing family grave.
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Re: Looking for burial place
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 January 11 11:32 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your help. I'll widen the scope a bit and see if that turns anything up. If he was interred with another family member, would this not show up on the enquires I made?

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Re: Looking for burial place
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 January 11 18:07 GMT (UK) »
Does this help? An old posting from 2007 on this hospital and what would happen to patients......

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,214303.0.html


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Re: Looking for burial place
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 January 11 20:51 GMT (UK) »
Islington records are online at Deceased Online, it's a subscription site.

http://www.deceasedonline.com/

but I don't think he's there
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Re: Looking for burial place
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 January 11 00:38 GMT (UK) »
Does this help? An old posting from 2007 on this hospital and what would happen to patients......

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,214303.0.html

Many thanks for the pointers, will give me more reading in my quest.


Islington records are online at Deceased Online, it's a subscription site.

http://www.deceasedonline.com/

but I don't think he's there

Thanks for that one. I have checked and you're right, it doesn't look like he's there.

All suggestions are very much appeciated.

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Re: Looking for burial place
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 January 11 23:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Other possible cemeteries in the London area (if not Watford Cemetery)
West Hertfordshire Crematorium was opened in 1959. Cremation would be less likely in 1938 since there were fewer crematoriums in operation.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,403485.0.html

The list of records at the London Metropolitan Archives for Napsbury Hospital makes no mention of a burial registers which would indicate the hospital had a cemetery. When an asylum is redeveloped if there is a cemetery it can often survive (and left as an overgrown section of land) because of the difficulty of reinterring a large number of bodies in unmarked graves with all the legal requirements that go with exhumation process.

Along with the Napsbury Hospital death registers which I don't think would indicate any information about burial arrangements there is a record held by the LMA termed 'departure registers, 1931 - 1948'. Not really sure what information a departure register would contain?

http://www.aim25.ac.uk/cgi-bin/vcdf/detail?coll_id=11784&inst_id=118&nv1=search&nv2=


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Valda
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