RICHES Family - Help Please

[woodyw]

 iam trying to trace  JAMES RICHES  (born about 1771 ) fressingfield suffolk , he appears on the 1851 census AGE 80 , but cant find him before that , he lived with HENRY RICHES and MARY ANN RICHES and there son WILLIAM RICHES ,  Also can someone tell me WHY in 1851 henry was 26 , mary ann was 25 and william was 2 , Then in 1861 william was 42 and mary ann was 42 and william was 13 , (IT GETS BETTER) , In 1871 henry was 48 mary ann was 47 and william was 23 , then there was FRED  he was 12 , this is the same family  so how have there ages changed so much in a ten year period each time .  AND wheres james before all this  very confused  sue

[Rick]

Hello Sue

Ages can vary between censuses but your family certainly does have a large disparity   The biggest gap seems to be between 51 and 61.  Have you seen the original 51 entry, or just the transcribed index?  I wonder if the family were wrongly transcribed when the index was produced.

I cannot find 1771 James in Fressingfield in 1841, and as yet, the Suffolk 1841 is not indexed I'm afraid.   Do you have parish record data for this family because lookups from them are available from the Suffolk Surnames List.

http://www.suffolk-surnames-list.co.uk/

Rick

[woodyw]

hi thanks for your reply , i dont have any census , a couple of people have done a census look up for me and found them on the 1851 , 1861, and 1871 census. finding it very hard to trace my family tree as we dont have much info to work with as my father was a banardos kid (as a orphan , have just found living reletives but they are a bit old 86years sister and aunt 94 years sadly not quite of sound mind !! lucky they do remember him and bit of info i have just seen a photo of my dad age 4 , i have waited 40 years for this he has waited 70 years so that was nice , )  thanks to roots chat we are slowly finding out moer about past family  regards sue

[krisesjoint]

Sue. My mum was in Barnardos homes on two occasions. Do you realise they do keep very good records indeed. The information we got listed all 9 childrens names and ages... The 2 youngest siblings mum didn't even remember but the best thing was it also mentioned her mothers parents stating that they were unable to assist. It told us such wonderful things in the records such as my grandmother had tried to support the children by playing the melodian in the streets. (Mum had blocked this all out -all too painfull for her) The name was quite common and we had no chance of ever finding our Grandmothers family prior to this. The fact that the home made the children use their mothers name in place of Fathers let us know that her parents were probably never married and that is why we had been unable to locate a marriage record. In the absence of a marriage cert (We only had our grandmothers name from mum and siblings birth certs) we were destined never to know anything of this family. Through Barnardos listing the fact that her parents (Names and Town) were unable to help I now have wonderful info on this family. This allowed me to find my granny in 1901 and then trace her back So if you havent already done so I would suggest you contact them and see what the records contain. Kris 

[woodyw]

hi thank you for your reply,. didnt know that , thanks thats a great help , would you mind telling me how i go about contacting them,thanks very much sue

[pixieleigh]

hi there,

just seen your post and can't go past it without comment i have a small collection of RICHES in my tree including a Mary anne (CHILD) RICHES b. about 1820. a collection of mary annes, James, Williams....

i'll go do some research...

keep us posted..

Sarah

[woodyw]

hi sarah , thanks for your message , my riches came from suffolk but moved around a lot some in london  and some in norfolk , be nice if could match some  sue

[Dean1]

Hi Sue,    I note your interest in Riches.    I have been doing some research on the Baldwin family in Catfield, Norfolk and apart from marrying one of the Baldwins (Frank Riches married Emmeline Baldwin) there are many, many Riches buried in the Churchyard of Catfield C of E (now overgrown and defunct as a church).    Presumably the records office in Norwich has listings of whose buried there.    I haven't actually followed this up as I was after the Baldwins, not the Riches.

Sue

[rsel]

Hi Sue,
   Not sure if this is your James, aged 65 (don't forget 1841 was rounded to the nearest 5 years) living in the Hoxne hundred which is in the parish of Fressingfield, with a Mary (aged 60), Lydia (15), Benjamin (11) and Sarah ( 8 ).

HO107/1025/9 Folio 10 Page 12 Line 4

Richard