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« Reply #63 on: Thursday 06 January 11 12:49 GMT (UK) »
GS ...you said you didn't have RS marriage to Dorothy Middleton ...

IGI extracted:
ROBT. SHADFORTH = DORO. MIDDLETON
17 MAY 1752, Easington, Durham

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #64 on: Thursday 06 January 11 12:57 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if its worth a quick look at the witnesses William Burrell and Ann Coulson. to see if there is a connection to the family :-\
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« Reply #65 on: Thursday 06 January 11 13:16 GMT (UK) »
scroll down to the reply from Old Crone!




Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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« Reply #66 on: Thursday 06 January 11 13:19 GMT (UK) »
this  link is a book about illegitimacy
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Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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« Reply #67 on: Thursday 06 January 11 13:23 GMT (UK) »
From another forum:
Just look at the words legitimate and illegitimate! These are legal terms. An illegitimate child, originally, was one which was not recognised in law. Illegitimacy quite specifically barred children from inheriting estates or offices. William I of England was illegitimate but gained the throne through conquest.
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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« Reply #68 on: Thursday 06 January 11 13:34 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if its worth a quick look at the witnesses William Burrell and Ann Coulson. to see if there is a connection to the family :-\
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I think angelfish found one back on page 3 ...


Is that even remotely possible here in that Alice, being older, could have been married to Robert's brother, who then died?

That's an interesting thought Angela. But would the same apply if Alice was (bigamously) married to any other man - not just a brother of Robert?

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« Reply #69 on: Thursday 06 January 11 13:46 GMT (UK) »
hi

not that this helps but I've been frantically googling and found this drawing of the Friary in 1780.


Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #70 on: Thursday 06 January 11 13:51 GMT (UK) »
A child of 2 unmarried parents was illegitimate that we know, if the parents married after the child can only be legitimized if one of the parents was not married to a third party when the child was conceived – this doesn’t help in this case but a bit of information for you!
Holman & Vinton- Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj & Hussak- Bukowiec & Zahutyn, Bentley & Richards- Leicester, Taylor-Kent/Sussex  Punnett-Sussex,  Bear/e- Monkleigh Gazey-Warwicks

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« Reply #71 on: Thursday 06 January 11 13:58 GMT (UK) »

Is that even remotely possible here in that Alice, being older, could have been married to Robert's brother, who then died?

That's an interesting thought Angela. But would the same apply if Alice was (bigamously) married to any other man - not just a brother of Robert?

It would certainly apply to bigamy in any circumstances, but this anomaly where a man couldn't marry his dead brother's widow and a woman couldn't marry her dead sister's widower did complicate matters a lot  ::) Not remotely bigamy, just a forbidden relationship....
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Especially looking for - Sealey, Rogers, Cannings, Box, Sheppard in Wiltshire; Virgin, Slade, Abbott, Saint, Harper, Silverthorn in Somerset; and Virgin, Tarr, Beer in Devon

And most especially the origins of William Cannings,  a Baptist, born abt 1791 in Broughton Gifford, Wiltshire