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Re: Why go to Southampton in 1847?
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 20:37 GMT (UK) »
I'm not sure that it does say servant for James Beatty in the 1841, looks too long to me.  :-\ :-\
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Re: Why go to Southampton in 1847?
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 20:38 GMT (UK) »
The servant is the third person listed in the household.

How rude of him not to name his servant.  ::)

I wonder if James BEATTY left any money to his servant in his will.  James died in 1856.

There is a possible will on National Archives documentsonline (cost £3.50 to download)

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0b39/

It's unlikely though.  :-\
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Why go to Southampton in 1847?
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 20:49 GMT (UK) »
Is this Elizabeth DUFFIN in 1841

HO107/587/14 folio 7 page 8
living Croxton Kerrial
John DUFFIN age 55yrs Ag lab
Elizabeth age 20yrs
Sarah age 15yrs
William age 14yrs
all born Leics
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Why go to Southampton in 1847?
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 20:52 GMT (UK) »
I would not think he would be left anything as he was living in Lincolnshire  by 1856 Ingham(where my great grandfather  Alfred was baptised) but the information is  interesting.
 
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Re: Why go to Southampton in 1847?
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 20:53 GMT (UK) »
Can you work out James's occupation Bearkat? He must have been well off as it looks as if he had 2 servants - does it say MS next to Thomas  Ship?
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Re: Why go to Southampton in 1847?
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 20:59 GMT (UK) »
Is James an Inginneer???

and

Thomas SHIP Ind(ependant)
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Why go to Southampton in 1847?
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 21:03 GMT (UK) »
BearKat

The Elizabeth Duffin at Croxton Keriel according  to  a relation of hers never married and so is not mine!!!

So need to find another

Suddenly realized the servant is FEMALE :o so cannot be John ? was it Elizabeth ???

I agree it looks like that James is an Inginneer

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Re: Why go to Southampton in 1847?
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 21:49 GMT (UK) »
Helen, did you find this picture of Prospect Place on the PortCities website?


http://www.plimsoll.org/resources/SCCLibraries/2251.asp
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Why go to Southampton in 1847?
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Yes I did.  :)

Also I found that they were set back from the road with large gardens to the front  and  were imposing according to Brannon "with their red brick fronts , trees and srubs" in 1850 so when my relatives lived their they must have been something.  8)

John and Elizabeth could not that far a way from each other at different parts of the same road and the church was on the same road as well.

All Saints’ church is of Grecian Ionic architecture, and has been much admired; it contains the monuments of Carteret, the circumnavigator, and of Bryan Edwards, the historian of the West Indies. It was destroyed during the war (WWII)