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Re: climo family
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 19 September 12 21:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Amber,
              Your Climo's are different to mine but are probably related somewhere along the line.
My William Henry was born 1858 in Penzance illegitimately to Ann Climo whose parents i believe were John Saunders Climo and Amelia Moon/Beckerleg.
Most of my ancestors were from Penzance area but as with most Climo's originated in the Bodmin area.
John and Amelia had another son, John Saunders, who also emigrated to Canada and i believe became a very successful photographer.
I will have to try and get "Mabinogi an clem", sounds interesting.

Regards Gary

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Re: climo family
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 02 February 13 22:48 GMT (UK) »
Hello again,

Yes I believe all the Climo's of Cornwall are attached - I have the family tree dating way back to the late 1400s and it is huge! It started with researching our direct line but the further we went back, the more Climo's that popped up!
Mabinogi en Clem is not for public sale - but there are copies available through Amazon books (that's where my Mother found it). It was written and published for the purpose of a family geneaological record - it is an amazing book so if you can find a copy, it will be well worth the money spent!
The Climo's lived all over Cornwall. Our lot came from the Bodmin area but the others lived and worked in the following districts: Truro, Crantock, Penwyth, St Newlyn, St Austell, Lanivet, Redruth, Fowey, Enoder & Trewalla, as well as other areas. Our direct line has been noted as living in many of those areas as well as Bodmin (where my 4th gr.grandfather was from). Many were tin miners. There were also a select group of Climos that were ordained priests.

A trip to Cornwall is now on the "bucket-list" ... would love to see where our branch came from. We found the house in Cornwall where we think (but hasn't been confirmed yet) my 4th gr.grandfather was born. I'd love to know what happened to his family after he left for NZ - James never saw them again. I have death records for Christopher & Mary Ann and James older brother, who died in infancy (and whom James was named after) and there were several other children whom I know nothing about.

William Henry Climo isn't a direct ancestor - although he would be a distant cousin of our James. I have his mother, Ann b.1828 but that is all I have on her - she was born in Bodmin and the only notes I have for William Henry is that his family lived in the St Austell area. I have Ann's parents as John Saunders and Mary Mann who married in 1818. Their children are listed as:

1819 - Margaret Saunders Climo (died in infancy)
1822 - Abraham Saunders Climo (insufficient information)
1823 - Catharine Bullock Climo (insufficient information)
1825 - Henrietta Ponson Climo (insufficient information)
1828- Ann Climo (insufficient information)
1830 - Elizabeth Climo (insufficient information - family births recorded in Bodmin)

(Funnily enough, back in the day when our family started researching this tree, John and Mary were incorrectly noted to be our James' parents ... which has since been corrected of course!)

John Saunders Climo's parents were Mathew Climo & Ann Saunders - I noted that Matthew & his sister Joice (who died in infancy) were born to Mary Climo but there is no marriage or partner recorded. Was their birth illegitimate also?

Our branch connects with this branch in 1599 - our common ancestors are John Clymmowe & Rebecca Hambley. Our direct line is through their son, Francis Clemow who married Ann Jane.

Kind regards,


POPE ANCESTORS: Whiting, Phillips, Cock/Cox, Whiting, Martin, Langley, Lee, Ryder, Parnell, Glubb, Prinn, Avery, Crispine, Pill ... to be cont.
CLIMO ANCESTORS: Cock, Mann, Burton, Bunster, Goodfellow, Hambely, Hocking, Body...
Phillips, Lily, Hockyn ... to be cont.
CLARKE ANCESTORS:Holloway, Hinchcliffe, Casey, Wren
JONES ANCESTORS: Hall, Edgar, Thompson ... to be cont.
COTTON ANCESTORS: Nye, Brown ... to be cont.
ANDERSON/SIMPSON (gr.grandfather's family unknown).
WILMSHURST/ CULE ANCESTORS .

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Re: climo family
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 03 February 13 18:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
My Great grandfather William Henry Climo was born 1858 in Penzance illegitimately to Ann Climo. The father has never been known.
Ann born 1840 in Penzance was the daughter of John Saunders Climo and Amelia Moon/Beckerleg.
This John Saunders Climo was born 1811 in Kingsbridge, Devon to another John Saunders Climo and his wife Mary whose last name was possibly Rowe. There is some confusion here because it is thought he also married a Mary Pasmore and a Mary Mann.
John Saunders Climo was born about 1789 in Bodmin to Matthew Climo and Ann Saunders/Sanders.
Matthew was born illegitimately to Mary Climo whose parents were John Climo and Frances Roe.

Regards.


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Re: climo family
« Reply #22 on: Monday 04 February 13 06:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

after dong some digging myself about where my ancestors came from i found out that my great grandfather (number unkown sorry) is the James Climo that you mention. He came to NZ in 1841 as a 20 year old with his wife and i have a clipping from a local newspaper from when he died. While he was here he did some pretty cool stuff including the NZ Maori wars were he was wounded fighting, and his first born, Elizabeth Catherine Climo was the first born european baby in what i now New Plymouth (taranaki) and at some point was nursed by the governor general William Hobson.  The article mentions only one child who married George Pope and that line follows directly to my deceased grandmother.

If at all possible i would like to trace further into the Climo tree and any info would be great.


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Re: climo family
« Reply #23 on: Monday 04 February 13 11:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi Newstarter;
Quote;
This John Saunders Climo was born 1811 in Kingsbridge, Devon to another John Saunders Climo and his wife Mary whose last name was possibly Rowe. There is some confusion here because it is thought he also married a Mary Pasmore and a Mary Mann.

Marriage;
28 October 1806, St Petroc, Bodmin, Cornwall
John CLIMO, Grooms Parish St Andrew, Abode Plymouth
Mary PASMORE
(Source FreeREG)
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Re: climo family
« Reply #24 on: Monday 04 February 13 13:00 GMT (UK) »

This John Saunders Climo was born 1811 in Kingsbridge, Devon to another John Saunders Climo and his wife Mary whose last name was possibly Rowe. There is some confusion here because it is thought he also married a Mary Pasmore and a Mary Mann.

Marriage;
28 October 1806, St Petroc, Bodmin, Cornwall
John CLIMO, Grooms Parish St Andrew, Abode Plymouth
Mary PASMORE
(Source FreeREG)

Both Pasmore & Mann marriages can be found on Cornwall OPC
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/

1808 marriage Cury
John Saunders CLEMOW to Mary ROWE
Both single both otp 2nd Witness Joseph Rowe


My William Henry was born 1858 in Penzance illegitimately to Ann Climo whose parents i believe were John Saunders Climo and Amelia Moon/Beckerleg.

John and Amelia had another son, John Saunders, who also emigrated to Canada and i believe became a very successful photographer.


from Cornwall OPC
Baptism  1835 Helston  John Saunders Climo
Parents John Saunders occ Tailor & Amelia
Dau Mary born 1838 Helston

Marriage 1832 Madron
John Sanders Climo bachelor to Amelia Beckerleg widow, 2nd witness to marriage was William Moon


From the IGI

William Henry Clemo Baptism/Christening Date: 03 Jun 1860  SAINT AUSTELL
Father's Name: John Clemo Mother Elizabeth


The 1860 CLEMO baptism as posted by CaroleW gives father John's occupation as Miner

William's 1880 marriage to Beatrice

William Henry Climo b1858 father John, both occupations given as Tailor
Beatrice Annie Bennett b1860 father  Peter miner, witnesses to marriage William Job & Mary Ann Bennett


William Henry Climo isn't a direct ancestor - although he would be a distant cousin of our James.
I have his mother, Ann b.1828 Bodmin but that is all I have on her

I have Ann's parents as John Saunders and Mary Mann who married in 1818. Their children are listed as:

1819 - Margaret Saunders Climo (died in infancy)
1822 - Abraham Saunders Climo (insufficient information)
1823 - Catharine Bullock Climo (insufficient information)
1825 - Henrietta Ponson Climo (insufficient information)
1828- Ann Climo (insufficient information)
1830 - Elizabeth Climo (insufficient information - family births recorded in Bodmin)


1819 Bodmin  Margaret Saunders Climo parents John occ Cordwainer & Mary
1822 Bodmin Abraham Saunders Climo parents John occ Labourer & Mary
1823 Bodmin Catharine Bullock Climo parents John occ Tailor & Mary
1825 Bodmin Henrietta Pennson Climo parents "        "      "           "
1828 Bodmin privately baptised Anne Climo "  "         "
1830 Bodmin privately baptised Elizabeth Climo "        "     "   born 13th Jan

Marriage 1821 Bodmin John Climo to Mary Mann, both single, both otp


The only census i have him on as William Henry CLIMO is the 1881 where he is married to Beatrice Bennetts and living in Redinnick Terrace, Penzance.

for info.
did you notice on the same 1881 census as William H Climo & Beatrice A Climo is

Martha C Sanders marr. with her  6 children,  Amelia Climo mother mar Tailors wife &
Amelia Beckerleg 49 retired dressmaker they are  living at No. 4 Redinnick Terrace






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Re: climo family
« Reply #25 on: Monday 04 February 13 14:37 GMT (UK) »
Apologies Ladyhawke as I had already typed this up;


Hi Amber1976 - Margaret Saunders Climo (died in infancy)
1822 - Abraham Saunders Climo (insufficient information)
1823 - Catharine Bullock Climo (insufficient information)
1825 - Henrietta Ponson Climo (insufficient information)
1828- Ann Climo (insufficient information)
1830 - Elizabeth Climo (insufficient information - family births recorded in Bodmin)

I am a bit confused here.
All have Fathers Occp as Tailor/Cordwainer except
ABRAHAM SAUNDERS 01 Sept 1822 ( Fathers Occp Labourer)

Other Climos to JOHN/MARY in Bodmin;
JOHN GEORGE 01 March 1816 (Taylor)
MARY ANN PAGE 15 April 1820 (Tailor)

Wouldnt this rule out the the 1818 Marriage to Mary MANN if 1st Child was Christened 1816?

Trish :)

EDIT;
John CLIMO Married Mary MANN 26 May 1821 Bodmin, Cornwall
(Source Familysearch.Org)
Cornwall OPC has John as Single so I think we are looking at the wrong Marriage?
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Re: climo family
« Reply #26 on: Monday 04 February 13 15:08 GMT (UK) »
Been following this thread as I wondered if the Cornish poet Jack Clemo belonged to any of your lines. He was born near St. Austell in 1916.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Clemo
SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
IRELAND: Welsh Clifford Lee Allingham Keane Dale Robinson Greer McVey Bingham Skelton Carson Broomfield Clark McEwan/McKeown McCreary McLaughlan.
YORKSHIRE: Cudworth Smith Cope Coulton Hainsworth