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Help deciphering cause of death
« on: Monday 03 January 11 15:59 GMT (UK) »
Hello
I am trying to read the cause of deathfrom this record.  I think what it starts off with is "tuberculosis of kidney"  but I can't read what it says under that.

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Whyte, Bell, Laing and Duncan from Fife, Scotland
Scollon from Scotland and Ireland
Robertson from Glasgow, Scotland

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Re: Help deciphering cause of death
« Reply #1 on: Monday 03 January 11 16:10 GMT (UK) »
Yes Tuberculosis of the kidney and underneath it says POST OPERATIVE ANAEMIA in other words there was excessive bleeding after an operation which was done probably to remove the infected kidney.
Tuberculosis is always thought of primarily a disease of the lungs and that is the most common form but it can affect  bones, glands and skin and as you know the kidneys, even the bowels. Wherever the infection settles.                                                                                                                        Blood pressure would fall very low  if there was excessive loss during the operation  and that is dangerous not to mention the great weakness  an d shock which would result from great blood loss.
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Re: Help deciphering cause of death
« Reply #2 on: Monday 03 January 11 16:38 GMT (UK) »
Wow.  That is so interesting.  None of my family new this information.  It was never spoken about.
Thank you very much.   
Whyte, Bell, Laing and Duncan from Fife, Scotland
Scollon from Scotland and Ireland
Robertson from Glasgow, Scotland

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Re: Help deciphering cause of death
« Reply #3 on: Monday 03 January 11 17:01 GMT (UK) »
I think it's Post Operative Anuria which is something follows kidney failure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anuria
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Re: Help deciphering cause of death
« Reply #4 on: Monday 03 January 11 17:18 GMT (UK) »
Again T.B. is always thought of as a disease of poor people living in poor conditions but that was not necessarily so. It could be contracted from milk from cows not T.T.attested, it was then  often a glandular form
affecting the lymph glands in the neck but of course any part of the digestive system also .This is why Pasteurisation of fresh milk was such an advance. Remember milk was sold "raw" straight from the cow- baccilli included even in big towns.
The T.B. of the lungs was an airborne infection and spread when affected people coughed  etc.but even breathing out spread it .Young active people almost always succumbed quicker than older ones  .One of my aunties died from it, she worked in an office with an old man who had  been a patient for years .He outlived her. Fresh air, really not  the norm in industrial  overcrowded areas was a good preventative but by no means to be relied on, however it formed part of the cure which
before anti-biotics consisted of fresh air-rest-good diet and if necessary collapsing the affected lung  to rest it..What they did if both lungs were affected I`m`not sure`!!!.` Glad to have helped.    Viktoria.    P.S. Geoff I agree, not Anaemia, I should have cleaned my specs !

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Re: Help deciphering cause of death
« Reply #5 on: Monday 03 January 11 18:28 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both for this information.  He was only 37 at the time.

I have passed it on to my mother and aunties (this was their grandfather that they never met)
Whyte, Bell, Laing and Duncan from Fife, Scotland
Scollon from Scotland and Ireland
Robertson from Glasgow, Scotland

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Re: Help deciphering cause of death
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 05 January 11 10:22 GMT (UK) »
My mum's eldest sister died of TB aged 23, she coughed so much she broke blood vessels in her neck and bled to death (and yes I have the death cert to prove the family history).  Although the family lived in Manchester they were not poor, the father worked as did the elder daughters and none of the others in the household became ill.

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Re: Help deciphering cause of death
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 05 January 11 19:01 GMT (UK) »
Thre is a  condition called Haemoptysis, where blood is coughed up-- very typical of Tuberculosis( as well as other diseases of the lungs.)It can be so severe that it was sometimes given as the cause of death when it really is a symptom .
We all know dramatic scenes where the hero or heroine lies on a couch coughing up blood, well sadly it was like that for T.B. patients in the old days .Mum used to tell us of her lovely sister dying on the couch , and of her having to eat RAW LIVER SANDWICHES, to get some iron into her as a health food.( UGH YUK YERRRGH) This was 1910. She said how lovely her skin was, almost transparent. Such sadness.
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Re: Help deciphering cause of death
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 06 January 11 00:00 GMT (UK) »
The causes of death on my aunt's death cert were 1.Tuberculosis, 2. Haemoptysis 3 days.  Not quite so dramatic as my mum "remembered".  She would have been 9 at the time and said her sister died in a convalescent home, whereas she actually died at home.  I guess she had the coughing fit whilst in the home which started the haemoptysis and so she was sent home to die.

She was a very beautiful lady, I have photographs and a drawing of her and although her other adult sisters were pretty, she was stunning.

Lizzie