Turnbull - Cramlington 1800 to 1945

[muso_bob]

Hi Alan, thanks for that tidbit. I will have a serious look at that.
"From little things big things grow"! Your bridge looks like a bridge near my home in Oz.

[Michael Dixon]

m-bob,

Let me be pedantic for a moment.

You said you were in the "Morpeth Registrar Office".  I think you were in the Northumberland Central Register Office that happens to be situated in the town of Morpeth.

There used to be a Registration District called Morpeth which was situated in the town of Morpeth. Title changed to Northumberland Central in 1937.

The RD used to cover a wide area including Morpeth town, and Bedlington and Ashington. And in fact there were sub-district offices in Ashington and Bedlington, to save shoe leather, as well as the main office in Morpeth town.

As Pete says Morpeth was/is Northumberland.  Some sections of this message board as well as other sources refer to Morpeth as been in County Durham. But the RD of Morpeth included the Parish, Township and Town of Bedlington. Up to 1844 Bedlington Parish, referred to as Bedlingtonshire, was one of three "enclaves" lying within the bounds of Northumberland county, that " belonged" to County Durham.

Michael

[muso_bob]

Hello Michael, I stand corrected. I do understand wording can be confusing. It took some time for me to get a grip and still need to do more - on the various 'regions'. For instance Tynemouth to me would mean the mouth of the Tyne River in Newcastle, however, I understand it is/was a very large rural area.

The office I went to in Morpeth was in Newgate Street where people go to fill informs to marry etc. I just wandered in there not sure of what to expect and was greeted most cordially and assisted greatly. Woodhorn did explain Morpeth being in the past in Durham etc. Anyway I am enjoying the challenge and this forum is amazing.
Cheers, Robert

[Michael Dixon]

Robert,

The town of Tynemouth was/is a small town at the mouth of the town. The Township of Tynemouth covered an area a litte larger than the town of Tynemouth. The Parish of Tynemouth covered a wider area including North Shields, Whitley, Cullercoats, etc.  The Registration District of Tynemouth from 1837 covered the six parishes of Tynemouth, Wallsend, Longbenton, Earsdon, Horton and Cramlington. The Urban Sanitary District of Tynemouth covered--- stop me, please !

So references to "places" of past times, would benefit from a qualification like town, parish etc, that they perhaps don't need today.

Trivia Angle. I went to King Edward VI grammar school in Morpeth (town). Our sister school was Morpeth Grammar School for Girls, which occupied the site now occupied by the Register Office.

Michael

[muso_bob]

Thank you for your explanation of terms and geography, Michael, it makes it easier to understand and will assist in plotting better.

I have just received Woodhorn's newish digital scan of the original parish record book entry for 4 items. My mother's christening/birth - her sister's christening/birth - my grandparent's 1922 marriage church record and my great grand parent's marriage church record. Very good quality and well worth the £4.25 each.

I also have now found a Robert Turnbull son of Robert Turnbull (wife Emma) 0f 23 Ridley St Cramlington 1911 census both in the colliery as coal miner and coal truck driver. RT snr born Newc and RT jnr South Shields Durham. RT snr moved from being a Railway Guard to Coal Mine Hewer. So now to try and confirm. The birth dates shown are calculations from provided ages so I am disregarding those as exact 1894 (1901 census) and 1895 (1911 census). I will now need to locate a Vol and page entry. Good fun!

[patren]

Robert Turnbull, father Robert mother Emma b.South Shields 1894 1901 census RG13/4730/109.
If this is your family there is a tree on A* going back a few generations.
Patricia

[muso_bob]

Patricia, thank you for that. I have now looked at both public trees and the one with sources may be closer. John Turnbull married to Mary Ann Humble is conflicting with my rough notes of John Turnbull married to Mary Ann Davidson. So some work in that area to try and tie Robert b 1894 down. I have looked at FindMyPast census for 1891, 1901 and 1911 - there Robt snr is in Durham in Percy Street Westoe SShields '91 and Bligh Street SShields '01, in Cramlington '11.
Robert

[belfordian]

Just wondering if everyone managed to sort out their Turnbulls from this thread. I have been researching Turnbulls of  various villages around present A697  as the sister of my 2x grt grandfather married into this line. I was researching another line for a friend and discovered a link through marriage of  her relative  with the Turnbulls who moved to Crow Hall, Cramlington. Next I found links from them with  2 people I know in my village . It goes on and on.

 I have quite a lot of info re the early Turnbulls who went from Roxburghshire in the early 1800's as shepherds to Caithness, Sutherland, Ross and Cromarty. They returned to North Northumberland before 1841. The name Lancelot Allgood is a recurrent name in this line and probably signifies one of them much earlier worked on his estate at Nunwick. The name is still continuing in present generations.

[muso_bob]

Dear Belfordian,
Thank you for your post. I appreciate your input and I have looked at Nunwick - seems to be around Hexham - one of the places I have wondered about. Lancelot Allgood T? I have tried to fit him at Crow Hall Farm - there is a George (farmer who had a L A son; however could not see a Robert around at all. Thank for this renewed interest. You have woken me from a limbo period. Robert