Turnbull - Cramlington 1800 to 1945

[muso_bob]

New to Rootschat and in need of assistance, please.

Grandfather Robert Turnbull - born c1892/3 NBL, father Robert. My dilemma is there are a number of Robert Turnbull's with father Robert so cannot knit my grandfather to the right one. My grandfather of Cramlington married Jessie Winn at St Mary's Church Parish of Morpeth 13 Feb 1922 (age 29?) Profession (unable to decipher - maybe a post in help section to come), father Robert deceased, no occupation. One witness is Lancelot Allgood Turnbull. Jessie (20) is daughter of William Winn a butcher. I have purchased my mother's birth cert 1924 and my grandfather (living at 10 Beacon Farm, Cramlington) is a stone miner in coal mine.

Any assistance or direction greatly appreciated. I am most impressed with what I have seen. Thanks

[candleflame]

Had hoped that Lancelot Allgood Turnbulls wonderful name might have helped as being a one off birth entry but there are several!! Back to the drawing board................   I take it you don't know any definite names of brothers or sisters of your grandad which might help?

[muso_bob]

Yes, my thoughts exactly. Unusual! Then as you say there are several. Thanks for your response.

[candleflame]

I'm sure one of the regular experts on Northumberland will be along after the bank holiday and they'll get you moving onto lines of enquiry.Sorry I wasn't any help this time.

[c-side]

Hi Bob

It's a bit late in the day to be thinking straight - may need to revisit this tomorrow!

Can you recall any names of your mother's aunts and uncles?  This might help with census records.

Have you tried looking for deaths/burials of the deceased Robert between 1892 and 1922?

Christine

[muso_bob]

I have 17 Tynemouth Robert Turnbull died between Dec 1892 and Jun 1920 and 4  Morpeth between Jun1894 and Dec 1913. I am hazarding a guess that of all NBLs they are the best candidates. Narrowing them down is my challenge. If only one can see the detail rather than just the index!

[muso_bob]

My mother - Joyce Turnbull - was never forthcoming about her family although she did say she had a sister Elizabeth - I did a search of births on freebmd and found the only Elizabeth Turnbull 1925 mother Wynn, however, there were a number:

Births Mar 1923
Turnbull    Winnifred    Winn    Tynemouth    10b   518    
Births Jun 1924
Turnbull    Joyce    Winn    Tynemouth    10b   624    
Births Jun 1929
Turnbull    Joan    Winn    Tynemouth    10b   460    
Births Sep 1930
Turnbull    Robert W    Winn    Tynemouth    10b   472    
Births Mar 1932
Turnbull    George S    Winn    Tynemouth    10b   398    
Births Dec 1937
Turnbull    Rena    Winn    Nthmbld.S.    10b   397    
Births Mar 1939
Turnbull    Derek    Winn    Newcastle T.    10b   314    

These plus Elizabeth Wynn 1925 indicates a large family although Rena and Derek may not be siblings

[pete ash]

Hi Bob, welcome to the dark side (northumberland family history) 
 I think you're getting bogged down with all the Robert Turnbulls about.
  The known facts from the certs you have is that your mother was born 1924 to Robert and Jessie.
 Robert and Jessie married 1922 and Roberts father was also Robert, one of the witnesses being Lancelot Turnbull.
 We need to ascertain the relationship between Robert and Lance.
 Hopefully a census search can put them together.

Pete

[muso_bob]

Thanks Pete, I believe you are right and I have tried to get Lancelot and Robert together with Robert father or son. I did manage to get 2 certs of Roberts with father Robert - one In sub-district of Byker the other Westgate. Geographically seem to be wrong to novice me. I love the challenge, though.

I also will be trying to locate information on my mother who served in WAAF WWII, don't know service number or where. Though RAF flew her ashes back and scattered at Biggin Hill in garden at Memorial Chapel.