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Swalling / Martin
« on: Saturday 01 January 11 07:10 GMT (UK) »
Could you please confirm for me the marriage between Maria Swalling and Frederick Hannah Martin in Surrey in 1851? 

Are there any children from this marriage?

Thank you in advance.  :)

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Re: Swalling / Martin
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 01 January 11 07:38 GMT (UK) »
here is the marriage in full it is down as frederick hannah martin but the actual image is frederick alexander martin
groom; frederick alexander martin
age; full age
status; bachelor
occ; ?
father; alexander martin
fathers occ; bookbinder
bride; maria swalling
age; full age
status; spinster
father; william swalling
fathers occ; ?
married on the 20th may 1851 at hampton st.mary,richmond upon thames
witnesses; john swalling,eliza martin, deborah -----?
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: Swalling / Martin
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 01 January 11 07:49 GMT (UK) »
and here is the marriage index
name; maria swalling
y.o.r; 1851
qtr; apr/may/jun
dist; kingston,surrey,middx
vol; 4
page; 238
on the same page; frederick alexander martin
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: Swalling / Martin
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 01 January 11 07:52 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that Wozzle.  I was a bit confused as I could find no other references to "Frederick Hannah".  What does full age mean????


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Re: Swalling / Martin
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 01 January 11 08:03 GMT (UK) »
full age means over 21 now think it might be the same then but not sure
maria swalling is on the 1851 census aged 25 born greenwich
on the 1841 census there is a maria swalling born 1821 in greenwich with mother sarah
there is also a baptism in 1817 in greenwich of a maria swalling parents are william/sarah swalling
if all these are one and the same is anybodys guess(though my guess is that they are)
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: Swalling / Martin
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 01 January 11 08:55 GMT (UK) »
Yes, they are the same.  Swalling is an incredibly rare name.  There are none left in England, I don't think.  All Australian Swallings are related.  There are Swallings in America, but they are a different lot.

I can't find any children for Maria and Frederick, or death??  Can you help with that Wozzle?

Thanks very much.

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Re: Swalling / Martin
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 01 January 11 11:40 GMT (UK) »
not only can i not find any children for them i also cannot find them in any census after they married
wioll have another more detailed look over the weekend
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: Swalling / Martin
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 01 January 11 11:48 GMT (UK) »
yeah, I had a bit of a look on ancestry.com and came up with a big zero.  Very strange.  They were married in 1851... obviously after the census for that year was taken since you found Maria Swalling on the 1851 census.  I guess the other possibility is that they emigrated.  Her older brother came to Australia in 1853 and his wife followed in 1855.  If Maria and her husband came to Australia with one of them, that would explain the lack of information.

I haven't really gotten into how to find out about immigrants yet, so that is something I'm obviously going to have to learn.