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Parish records
« on: Friday 31 December 10 11:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi, i don't know if anyone can help but i want to look at Parish records and i want to know which is the best website to obtain information?
Regards Paul
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Re: Parish records
« Reply #1 on: Friday 31 December 10 14:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi Paul

Dont think that Im being sarcastic but the best place to look at parish registers is in a record office.  If you want to try it on the net you can look at Family Search, Free BMD, Free Reg, Ancestry at your local library as they may well have a subscription to it. there are stacks of web sites for diferent parts of the country but they all need checking as they can have some mistakes on them - this is why I said the best place is a record office

All the very best

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Re: Parish records
« Reply #2 on: Friday 31 December 10 15:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi Paul,

I agree with Phil.  One or two commercial websites do provide images of the register pages, which is what you are after.  However, some only provide images for a particular time frame.  So you need to be on your toes about what you pay for.  Often you are browsing, rather than chasing a specific record.  Doing that, on pay-per-view, will be extremely expensive.  Many families use  only a limited set of first names, making research very difficult.

There are other problems.  How do you know if your family were, at some point, non-conformists?  I have a family, same parents, who used both the Methodist Church and the C of E church for baptisms.  The county record office will be able to tell you if a town had more than one place of worship.  It is not uncommon to find text that shouldn't be there and so does not appear in search engines.  For example some curates/vicars wrote exact dates of birth in to Baptism records.  The social state of some parishioners may also be enlightening!

There are a host of other reasons in favour of the record office and only one against.  That is an inability to travel there from the other side of the world.  There are a few ways to partially solve that.  Be very thorough with your approach to pre-research.  Use GENUKI, societies, sites like this one to ascertain exactly what records you are looking for and what else may be available and what is not.  The Church of Latter Day Saints will import, for a small fee, films they have taken of the registers.  CDs and on-line images may be available.

But to research items that are in the Parish Chest, and other documents that are not commercially available you either need a very good friend, or a relative with an interest to go and look for you.  Some societies, e.g. BMSGH provide a link scheme for members, but you do need to be very specific.  Otherwise it's hiring a private researcher.

Which Parish records were you after, and what time frame?

Regards

Mike

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Re: Parish records
« Reply #3 on: Friday 31 December 10 15:11 GMT (UK) »
Just to add to Mike's useful information ... you can request lookups from local Rootschatters. Many of them frequent record offices.  ;)

You can also give names, dates etc of the people you are searching for and request help here. Many folks have CD's, transcripts etc which may contain the information you require.


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Re: Parish records
« Reply #4 on: Friday 31 December 10 15:38 GMT (UK) »
Thank's guys, i was looking for information on Richard Harrington b. abt 1786.
On the 1841 census he is living in Kidderminster age 55, with his wife Fraurag age 40, children Sarah 15, Elisabeth 15, Charles 12.
Basically i'm looking for the marriage of Richard and Fraulag and Fraulag's maiden name. also if possible Richards Parents.
Thank's for the help and advice.
 Regards Paul
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Re: Parish records
« Reply #5 on: Friday 31 December 10 18:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Paul,

Re: 1841:

I don't know if you are aware, but all over 15 years had their ages rounded down to a multiple of 5.  So Richard could be 59, 58, 57, 56, or 55.  Same applies to his wife and Sarah and Elisab (sic).

They were all born in Worcestershire.

I can't find a death for anything that looks like "Fraurag", on FreeBMD.  There is no "l" character in the middle of the name.  Looking at other census pages I'm tempted to say that the last letter of his wife's name was neither a "g" or a "y" when compared to writing on other pages.

Add that to the results from the new LDS FamilySearch site and there was a Charles HARRINGTON baptised 27th March 1829 in Kidderminster to a Richard and Sarah HARRINGTON.  Changing dates there, you will find other HARRINGTON children there too.  There also appears to be an 1818 baptism with a variant name of Elizabeth, making her approximately 20 in the 1841.  Perhaps she died or got married.

Malvern FHS have done the county baptism index, so you could try that for confirmation.  I've never used their service.

The LDS site doesn't seem to have the marriage, which just might be a second one for Richard, looking at his age.

The is a county Marriage Index, prepared by BMSGH.  The ONLY public access to the volumes is at Worcester Record Office.  There is an Internet enquiry service available http://bmsgh.org/search/Wo_marr_index.html  BMSGH members get a discount.  BMSGH (http://bmsgh.org/) members may visit their library in Birmingham on selected days.

Happy New Year

Mike
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Re: Parish records
« Reply #6 on: Friday 31 December 10 21:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mike, i did not know about rounding down the age, thats why i probably have had problems in the past finding ancestors.
Cheers Paul
Happy new year to all :)
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Re: Parish records
« Reply #7 on: Friday 31 December 10 21:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mike just looking back at some of my Records, found that Richard's wife is Frances b.1801, so bit confused with Fraurag from the 1841 census unless the writing on the census page is difficult to read?
cheers Paul
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Re: Parish records
« Reply #8 on: Friday 31 December 10 22:02 GMT (UK) »
I see from the 1841 census Richard was a Weaver, a lot of weavers left Kidderminster in the late 1840's for work elsewhere.