A place Vron Vriara

[powderpuff]

Hi William,

Thank you so much, I don't think I could have found anyone better considering you are so near to the area.

So far he really has been an exhausting person to search. I haven't found him in any other census records either nor in 1901. I will look at the 1861 census for Elizabeth Parry and would be happy to get a marriage cert, it would help, just to eliminate if necessary.

The name Vron Vriara maybe a house name lost. I've looked in the Royal Mail address finder but no luck with any names near to the Chirk/Wrexham area.

[ScouseBoy]

If you send off for one of the certificates  you may get further details or  a more clear idea of place and location.

It may be worth you posting a query in the Merionethshire section,  just in case the place was near the border of the two counties.

Are there any other possibilities for the spelling of  "Vriara" ?    Could it possibly be Fron Friary?   

[ScouseBoy]

Have a look at   www.wrexham.gov.uk    you just may be able to search  for addresses on there.    Search for modern day street names with Friary in the name.

[JustLooking]

Hi  

I was born in Chirk and lived there until i was 18 - even closer than WR   - and there are a number of Vron/Frons  - There's Froncysyllte which is about 3 miles from Chirk and a Fron Issa and Fron Ucha which are in the Penyclawdd township of Chirk parish.


Fron is the current spelling of Vron - in Welsh F is pronounce as V and FF is pronounced as F  

I'll have a look around to see if i can come up with anything more.

JL

[JustLooking]

Hello again

I've just been looking at my OS maps and the nearest that I can find is a Stryt y Veri which leads from the Fron Ucha that I mentioned.

Here's the location:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0azv/

It's on the borders of Chirk and Llangollen parishes but was  in Chirk parish in the 19th century as far as I know. Some of my ancestors lived there at one time 



JL

[ScouseBoy]

There is not a letter V in the Welsh Alphabet.

[JustLooking]

Of course there isn't - we're talking about pronounciations and as it was spelled before everything became PC.

When I lived in Wales the single Fs were all written as Vs 

Read what I said carefully 

[wrjones]

I'm pleased I've got my regular help now!lol

I was thrown a bit by the 1891 entry you gave but given that the 1881 entry gives Samuel's birth as c 1847,this family of an Edward and Sarah Jones living in Vron with a son Samuel given as born in Chirk in c 1848 in the 1851 Census looks very interesting.
HO107/1993/794/17.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[JustLooking]

We really need Gadget, WR 

I did find a Samuel Jones with parents Joseph and ? in 1861 in Erthig (Erddig  ) - born Chirk in 1853. I'll go check it out again and put up a ref just in case.

My Chirk Bpts finish at 1845 so they're not much help.


JL