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Netherthong History
« on: Wednesday 29 December 10 10:27 GMT (UK) »
my ancestor Ben Woodhead was christened in Netherthong  in 1820 to John and Fanny Woodhood.
In the 1841 census John was listed as a wool classer and in 1851 a wool dyer. the youngest child was born in Pennistone but then by the census they were back in Netherthong.
I am wanting to write up what I know of Ben's life, he ended up in Melbourne Victoria, paying quite a bit of money for passage for he and his family then doing very well on arrival. His brother John followed a few years later and he too did quite well in the new country.
Strangely their father is listed as a Manager of woollen mills (not sure if this was to build up thier reputation rather than having a common background)
I am wanting to know where I can find some good reliable information about thier possible living conditions and growing up in Netherthong in the 1820's and 30's/
Any information, hints etc will be gratefully recieved
Carmel

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Re: Netherthong History
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 December 10 18:15 GMT (UK) »
Carmel- the combination of Netherthong and Woodhead caught my eye-We have a Maria Woodhead of Meltham /Wilshaw ( nr. N/thong)m'd William Hirst (b. Netherthong )in 1818.
Also, I lived + went to school in Netherthong in the 1950's, so am familiar with the village.
Are you based in Uk or are you abroad?
I don't know much about the village's history but if you need any research doing on the spot, so to speak, I'd be glad to oblige.
Like you , I have ancestors who "upped sticks" and went abroad in the textile trade - I wonder who recruited them and where they got the money to travel!

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Re: Netherthong History
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 December 10 22:25 GMT (UK) »
Mine did not go into the wool trade. Ben left earlier (before 1841 census) and did an apprentiship in carpentry. When he came to Aus he went into the dairy trade, also did some carpentry and bought up land and built houses etc. He also became a local councilor, was on the jury for Eureka, JP, Police Magistrate, was in Politics etc etc.
Ben was the son of John Woodhead (wool trade) and Fanny. Here is Aus cetificates say she was Fanny Hobson however everything points to her being Fanny Mellor. I did find the birth of a Fanny Mellor and she was illigitimate and wonder if her mother may have married a Hobson hence the children thinking she was a Hobson.
I am in Australia and am wanting to know the upbringing of the Woodhead children. They were educated. Ben married and his first wife must have died in childbirth as he remarried 3 months after Alfred (my 2x g grandfather) was born. I cannot find this marriage to Sarah Taylor, although I did find one and got the certificate and found he was illiterate, was in the wool trade, his father Joseph who was a labourer etc, There is no way Ben would have been able to sign his name in such a hand 2 yrs later. Also I cannot find a death for said Sarah Taylor (Woodhead)
Was the wool trade a good job, I would have thought it would be like the cotton industry which was not nice. Also Ben was born just before the industrial revolution

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Re: Netherthong History
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 December 10 01:13 GMT (UK) »
Carmel.

I too grw up in the area but now Live in Canterbury Vic

I have been collecting Notes Links etc

While they are not specifically netherthong, I think some will be of interest

go here

http://www.werelate.org/wiki/HolmeVillageHome


Morehouse mentions Upprthong the next village 

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=DQEIAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=The+History+and+Topography+of+the+Parish+of+Kirkburton+and+of+the+Graveship+of+Holme,+Including+Holmfirth&cd=1#v=onepage&q&f=false

netherthong was also the location of the Deanhouse Workhouse

http://holmfirth1914.com/index.php?p=1_38


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Re: Netherthong History
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 December 10 06:03 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou for that link, with all the bits and pieces I am getting a sence of things and would be happy to add to your page if I find other things of interest. I do have some photos of Ben and his brother John, and a distant cousin in New Zealand has an album of photographs many taken in the area. He has promised this album to me but getting from NZ to Aus has been an issue.

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Re: Netherthong History
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 12:18 GMT (UK) »
If it is of interest, I have an Eliza Woodhead born in Netherthong in 1832/3.

She married Ben Hobson in 1853 and they had nine children of whom I am aware.
All WRY (Holmfirth/Linthwaite/Rastrick /Elland/Kirkburton/Barnsley)- Broadbent, Brook, Cartwright, Charlesworth, Dawson, Earnshaw, Ellis, Flather, Greaves, Hallas, Hirst, Holroyd, Houghland, Hoyle, Kilner, Littlewood, Mallinson, Mitchell, Morton, Scargill, Schofield, Swallow, Taylor, Youle

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Re: Netherthong History
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 12:48 GMT (UK) »
who were Eliza's parents, although I believe John b 1832 was the youngest in this family and does appear on the cencus with John and Fanny. There were quite a few Woodheads in this area at the time, but have never been able to connect any!

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Re: Netherthong History
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 13:30 GMT (UK) »
I am not sure. She is my tree by marriage and my Ancestry subscription has expired so I can't look her up in 1841 or 1851.

There are three possibilities on the IGI, all baptised at the Wesleyan Chapel in Netherthong:

Elizabeth, baptised on 30 Jul 1831 d/o William and Lidia

Elizabeth, baptised on 3 Mar 1833 d/o Jonas and Sarah

Eliza, baptised on 9 Jan 1833 d/o Lidia

It could be the latter but discerning between Eliza and Elizabeth is risky.

No obvious relation to John and Fanny but I didn't know if you had got further back to John's siblings.
All WRY (Holmfirth/Linthwaite/Rastrick /Elland/Kirkburton/Barnsley)- Broadbent, Brook, Cartwright, Charlesworth, Dawson, Earnshaw, Ellis, Flather, Greaves, Hallas, Hirst, Holroyd, Houghland, Hoyle, Kilner, Littlewood, Mallinson, Mitchell, Morton, Scargill, Schofield, Swallow, Taylor, Youle

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Re: Netherthong History
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 17:59 GMT (UK) »
Without wanting to change the forum context, but where else would have a nether thong, ps. i went to school in Holmfirh
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