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Re: Some Famous People found on the Census !
« Reply #45 on: Sunday 01 May 05 01:45 BST (UK) »
Has everyone else lost interest in this?

I've found Henry Irving (actor manager) in the 1881 census, age 43, at 15a Grafton Street, London, along with a lodger and several servants.  His occupation at this time is "comedian".

His manager was a certain Bram Stoker (he of Dracula fame).  In 1881 he was living at 27 Cheyne Walk, Chelsea, age 33, with his wife, brother and servants (including a nurse).

Then there's Mary Seacole (of Crimean War fame), 71 in 1881 (the year of her death) who was lodging at 3, Cambridge Street, Pimlico.

I spotted the Royal Yacht in 1881 in Portsmouth (I think) at some point when looking for a relative.  Couldn't believe the number of staff of board (and HRH was at Windsor at the time) - went on for a number of pages!

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Re: Some Famous People found on the Census !
« Reply #46 on: Monday 02 May 05 17:48 BST (UK) »
Dimps - here is Benjamin Disraeli in 1881. He's going by his title - the First (& last) Earl of Beaconsfield. He also has a fleet of servants on the next page!

Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
(Earl of K G) BEACONSFIELD   Head   W   Male   75   London, Middlesex, England   Ex Prime Minister     

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Source Information:
  Dwelling   19 Curzon St
  Census Place London, Middlesex, England
  Family History Library Film   1341022
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   0096 / 100
  Page Number   6

One of my favourite Victorians ;D

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HILL/BURKE/BELCHER/BIGNELL/BADHAM/COX/BLAKE/YELDHAM in London
HOPKINS/HART/MATTHEWS/MUNSON/FARLEY in Exeter & Mid Devon
FEREDAY in The Potteries & Tipton
ADAMS/MUSCUTT/ELSBY/BRIDGENS/BURKE/BELL/RAINBOW in The Potteries
O’CALLAGHAN/O’BRIEN in Cork
BURKE/FITZPATRICK in Birmingham
HOPKINS in Shaftesbury
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BLAKE/CHANDLER in Wickham Market, Suffolk

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Re: Some Famous People found on the Census !
« Reply #47 on: Monday 02 May 05 19:05 BST (UK) »
Another from 1881:

Florence Nightingale, 60, Directress Of Nightingale Fund For Training Hospital Nurses, b. Italy (British Subject)

Living at 10 South St, Mayfair with 4 servants.

RG11/0096; Folio 38; Page 29

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: Some Famous People found on the Census !
« Reply #48 on: Monday 02 May 05 19:19 BST (UK) »
Here's a future authoress in 1901 - love her or hate her, I'm sure practically all of us read her books as children!

RG13/688; Folio 96; Page 14

95 Chaffinch Road, Beckenham, Kent

Thomas Carey Blyton 31  Deptford, London, England Head  Beckenham  Kent   
Theresa May Blyton 26  Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Wife  Beckenham  Kent 
Enid Mary Blyton 3  Dulwich, London, England Daughter  Beckenham  Kent   
Hanley Harrison Blyton 1  Beckenham, Kent, England Son  Beckenham  Kent 

MR 
ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: Some Famous People found on the Census !
« Reply #49 on: Monday 02 May 05 23:44 BST (UK) »
Enid Blyton made me think about E(nid) Nesbit:

In 1881, living at 28 Elswick Road, Lewisham:

Edith Bland, Head, M, F, 22, Lambeth, Surrey, Authoress
Paul Cyril Bland, Son, M, 10m, Brockley, Kent
Sarah Nesbit, Mother, W, F, 63, Battle, Sussex
and a couple of servants, Elizabeths Rule and Knight from Cambridge and Hampshire, respectively.

I think this is husband Hubert (sometime bank clerk, then taking on his late father's business and later a journalist and writer) living at 46 Samuel Street, Woolwich:

Mary A Bland, Head, W, F, 61, Woolwich, Kent, Annuitant
Hubert Bland, Son, U, M, 25, Woolwich, Kent, Brush Maker
and a visitor and a servant.

In 1901, her household at Well Hall, Eltham, included:

Hubert Bland, Head, M, 45, Journalist and Author, Kent Woolwich
Edith Bland, Wife, M, 42, Doess (authoress), Kennington SE
Paul C Bland, Son, S, 20, Stock Exchange Clerk, Kent Brackley (Brockley)
Mary I Bland, Daughter, S, 19, Art Student, Kent Lewisham
Rosamund Bland, Daugher, S, 14, Kent Lee
John O Bland, Son, S, 1, Sussex Brighton
Alice Hodson (Hoatson), Visitor, S, 40, Yorks Halifax

Three years after Hubert's death, Enid married former Woolwich Ferry Captain, Tommy Tucker.

For those who are unfamiliar with this family, have a Google.  I think it's rather sad.  Try:  http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0,11710,1445809,00.html#article_continue

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Linberry, Chatfield, Faulkner, West in West Sussex<br />Towell, in Shoreditch and Exeter<br />Spurling from Norfolk<br />Bateson from Norfolk<br />Snell, Lorkin, Norman from Suffolk<br />O'Boyle/Boyle from Donegal<br />Murray, McCann, Gunn from Sutherland<br />Davis, Bute from Woolwich<br /><br />Census information contained in this post is Crown copyright:  www.NationalArchives.gov.uk

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Re: Some Famous People found on the Census !
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 03 May 05 09:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the link Deborah - what a fascinating account, if tragic.

Just goes to show, the bare facts of the census cannot give the full story.

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Some Famous People found on the Census !
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 03 May 05 15:10 BST (UK) »
Here goes....from the 1881.Not sure if they've been done:
Charles L DODGSON,49yrs, is a lodger at St Aldates St Ch,Ch Coll,Oxford St Aldate,Oxford.Occupation given as M.A. Student and Lecturer.
Better known as Lewis Carroll.
GRO Ref RG11,Piece/folio 1501/25 Page 44.

Wilkie COLLINS,57yrs, author, is widowed and living at 90 Gloucester Place,London.
GRO Ref RG11,Piece/folio 0147/42,Page 24.
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"Yma o hyd".

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Re: Some Famous People found on the Census !
« Reply #52 on: Friday 06 May 05 11:51 BST (UK) »
We've had the major establishment politicians of the day, so - on election results day - how about a couple of revolutionaries!

First, in 1861:

Thorncliffe Grove, Chorlton-upon-Medlock, Lancashire

Frederick Engels  Lodger  40  Merchant  b. Prussia   "Short-sighted"(in disability column!)

Then in 1871:

Maitland Park Road, St Pancras
     
Karl Marx  Head  52  Dr Ph  Author (Political)  b. Trèves, Prussia   
Jenny Marx  Wife   56  b. Talzwedel, Prussia
Jenny Marx  Daughter  25  b. Paris, France   
Eleanor Marx  Daughter   16  b. London, England
Helene Demeth  Servant  46  b. St Wendel, Prussia

MR
ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: Some Famous People found on the Census !
« Reply #53 on: Friday 06 May 05 13:48 BST (UK) »
Marx had a servant?! :o

Then again, it was the 19th Century - most richer people did have servants.

Is Treves another name for Trier, where Marx was born in 1818?
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