Home Children

[J.J.]

There are no details of the children just that there were 3. I had thought there was more because I use firefox, but my own advise on the resource pages says to use internet explorer as the tables collapse in my browser which makes it all a jumble. I didn't see that there was a photograph for Keziah, but there should be one in existence for all the children as they were supposed to take one upon admittance. I wish you could afford to have Barnardos lookups done for some of the children, as all our finds, even cef, can't be proven for sure unless proper names, dates religions even occupations were used at least twice. Keziah is easy as she has an unusual forename.
I did not know that you had picked up a birth for Edwin/Edward as I thought  you'd said somewhere the only one you had for certain was I think John? Guess I am getting confused as the thread gets larger...
Have looked further afield for John in censuses as Welch, Welsh, Weltch and variants, but have not found him. J.J.

[gdc]

The Home Children passenger lists are online
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/home-children/001015-100.01-e.php  Broken link.
Try -
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/home-children-1869-1930/Pages/home-children.aspx

There is a rootsweb mailing list British Home Children (thru Canada icon)

A Descendants webpage with oodles of information
http://www.britishhomechildren.org/  Broken link.
Try -
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~britishhomechildren/

and many people who can answer some of questions re the Home Children.

[Sal1525]

Hello
Thankyou for you for  your emails.
That is a matter of interest to me to hear that the children had to submit a photograph upon admittance. One needs to be a direct descendant to the child that was admitted into/travelled with Dr Bs to have full access to the Barnado records. Taking into account thier ages when they were admitted and emigrated, then went on to marry, and perhaps have children , many of the direct descendants have passed away.?
It is £100. for a basic search  with a copy of the admittance letters etc..and a £100. thereafter, even for direct descendants.?
So, I will take the longer route in finding out more data for the children. Next week I shall order the Attestation papers, where applicable.  I have learnt an incredible amount on this thread so far, amazing. All down to you industrious volunteers, I simply cannot thank you enough.
The Descendants webpage is very interesting to  view and I shall be working my way through that site and perhaps post a message on there, I will let you know if I do, but right now I need to concentrate on this thread.  Be back soon.

[J.J.]

There was supposed to be a photo taken of each child upon admittance. Sometimes one was taken later in life as well, to prove things were going well. My thoughts are that there probably were none taken if it wasn't...

1908 death of Myrtle....Polar Bear has Robert living at 165 N. Beaconsfield Toronto.  George Wehler owns the premises
http://www.archive.org/stream/torontodirec190800midiuoft#page/n117/mode/2up
Robert rooms there, occ. Butcher which again helps to tie the Robert we have been looking into directly with the one in the CEF signup you found for him...
http://www.archive.org/stream/torontodirec190800midiuoft#page/n1153/mode/2up


Well let's wait & see what gets sent for Robert's files...
This may be another red herring like the other we researched...but hopefully you find information in the military files for Robert that he knows the whereabouts of his brother....It's a crapshoot as to what is in the files. You could try saying you think he is a Barnardos boy and could they charge you only for copies pertaining to family in case he is not the right fellow? I am not sure if they would help you in that regard, but it doesn't hurt to ask this first? 


Don't get your hopes up, but posting in case something comes up to help prove or disprove this one:
Along those same lines we have another John we are looking at in the CEF signups...occ. cook
birth...Jan 2 1886 ( you have a baptism this date, or was it a birth? He says born Ontario...but this isn't always accurate an Polar Bear can't find this exact birth......Says he is married and yet gives next of kin as Robert but he gives no relationship. This Robert lives at  504 Queen St W. which is only a few blocks from 55 Markham. ....http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc017/667654a.gif

1914  there is a Robert 1300 queen St, don't see a John occ. cook and there are none listed by the surname at either address, but that might just mean boarding house owner.
http://www.archive.org/stream/torontodirec191400midiuoft#page/n1561/mode/2up

[Sal1525]

Hello
JJ_thankyou for your post. I visited your links, getting the hang of the Toronto Directories. Have noted info down and shall file it away.
Had other searches ongoing today, with some success, different family lines. Then went on to the Tweety site and have been going through every link. Only a few more to finish. Went through quite a few Naval and Coastguard indexes to try and see if John had enlisted there, nothing to note at present.
Will be ordering the Army files, very soon.
This was a very interesting link that I found on
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/britishhomechildren/   it is run by former BHC and is taking steps to register all Home Children. There is one list for HC claimed by descendants and another for those that are unclaimed. I found the following;
Elijah Arnold B/18/02/1895 Eng. Sailed 1907-Dominion age 11
Edward B/1896 Eng-sailed-1907-Dominion-age 11
Kezia E Arnold-B/1900 Eng-sailed-1910-Tunisian-age 10
Robert Welsh-B/ 1882 Eng-sailed-Laurention-1894-age 12
John Welsh-B/1883 Eng-sailed-Carthaginian-1898
John Walsh-B/ 1885 Eng -sailed-Numidian-1895-age 10
John Walsh-B/1887 Eng--sailed-Tunisian-1902-age 15
Now, I realise that some of the dates may look amiss, for Robert and John, but I have an email address, which I shall compose shortly, to contact a Mr Snow to take the search further and access more data that they have, of the voyages. And help to pin down te childrens particulars. Mr snow has helped to compile the British Home Children Registry.

So I will let you know how I get on with that.
Catch you soon.

[Sal1525]

Hi
Also, shall be contacting the FHS as follows.

http://www.leedsandgrenvillegenealogy.com/

http://elginogs.ca/

info@torontofamilyhistory.org

http://www.ogs.on.ca/oxford/index.html

Have been browsing through these sites today and believe that it will be beneficial to me to join for further interests.

[Sal1525]

Hi

Just been viewing the Elgin Newspapers and found more info for Elijah and Hazel Arnold.

Elmdale Memorial Park Cemetary.  Section F,     St Thomas ,Ontario, Canada.
F191A  Hazel Arnold  1896-1969
F192D  Elijah Arnold   1896-1976 ( Crest)
And have an address for the Funeral Home,
Elmdale Memorial Park Cemetary
190 Wilson Avenue,
St Thomas, Ontario Canada.  N4R 3R3

They, by all accounts hold detailed information on each person buried in the Cemetary. Still hold most of the Obituary notices for the last 70 years and are in the process of transcribing them to put on line, should that be of use to anyone else searching in Elgin County.

More information for Elgin can be found at      http:// www.elgingogs.ca
And on another site that is promoting the book  We Will Remember Them.  There is a lengthy list of the men and women from Elgin East who served in WW1______unfortuneately Elijah was not to be found there.
http://www.elgingogs.ca/Home/we-will-remember-them
Hope this helps those that had relations who served in Canada WW1.

[delfryn]

Hello,
I have been reading your correspondence regarding the Arnold family.  My Uncle married Faith Hope Charity Brown and I have alot of information and certificates for the Arnold's if you are interested.  I am happy to share my research with you.
Regards

[polarbear]

Wow! Hello delfryn and welcome to this thread. I am sure stomper will be along soon.

Polarbear