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Leightonhill? Forest Cottage COMPLETED- THANK YOU!
« on: Tuesday 14 December 10 22:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,

Can anyone help with the location of a cottage. On the certificate, I think it says Leightonhill, Angus.  It this is correct does anyone know if there is still a building called Forest Cottage.  My Great Grandmother Christina Jessie Young b.1894 lived here

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Re: Leightonhill? Forest Cottage
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 December 10 09:14 GMT (UK) »
hi Ellary  :)

there is a leightonhill to the east of brechin on modern maps

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Re: Leightonhill? Forest Cottage
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 16 December 10 17:41 GMT (UK) »
In which parish or registration district was your certificate issued? There could be more than one place called Leightonhill, and it's important to know the parish/district to make sure you get the right one.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Leightonhill? Forest Cottage
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 16 December 10 20:40 GMT (UK) »
hi all  :)
as Forfarian posts can't be certain that this is your leightonhill
so i had a look at the 1881 census -
seems to be down as leighton hill brechin
found -
leighton hill foresters house brechin forfar(shire)
james young 58 forester born essie forfar
pamela young 56 wife b. glamis forfar
margaret young 31 dau. b. glamis forfar
christina young 5 gr. dau. b. london england

Ellary does this mean anything to you about your Young family ?

james young married pamela greenhill 1847 glamis angus

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Re: Leightonhill? Forest Cottage
« Reply #4 on: Friday 17 December 10 11:23 GMT (UK) »
Ev and Forfarian,

Thanks for taking the time to reply to my post,

Forfarian, I need to check with my mun re the district on any certificates she has.  Thanks for bringing this up, may save me a lot of time.  I am new to this sherlock holmes detective work!

Thanks for checking the census Ev,  Christina was born in London and her age woud be correct, but  iIthink I have different parent names, but then it may not have been her parents she was staying with on that date, I will need to trawl through my mums notes and get my head round who is who!

Thanks again x 
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Re: Leightonhill? Forest Cottage
« Reply #5 on: Friday 17 December 10 12:22 GMT (UK) »
christina young is down as grandaughter on the census
james young 58 and pamela greenhill 56 were her grandparents

apart from margaret young born 1851 looks like there are 4 other children
to this couple(IGI familysearch website)
alexander crabb young b.1851
john young b.1854
james young b.1856
jessie mcdonald young b.1864

Ellary , on your first post you have your great grandmother as born 1894
is this correct ?
if so she can't be on the 1881 census

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Re: Leightonhill? Forest Cottage
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 18 December 10 22:23 GMT (UK) »
Quite right Ev!  So have looked back and she was born on 7th March 1876 so that works out ok,

And her Grandparents were James Young, forester and Pamella Greenhill so this also matches.

I am interested in the tracing of my family tree, but am equally fascinated in the lifes/jobs/housing that they all experienced. 


Would anyone in the Leightonhill area know if the house still stands, and/or know what forest James may have worked in

Cheers   
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Re: Leightonhill? Forest Cottage
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 December 10 06:54 GMT (UK) »
Assuming that the Leightonhill east of Brechin is the right one, which does look likely, there is a photograph of it at http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/112069

The forester's cottage may or may not have been or be among the farm buildings, or it may be or have been separate.

You can see the 1865 six-inch Ordnance Survey map of the area at www.nls.uk and at www.old-maps.co.uk. If using the latter, you can home in on Leightonhill by entering Coords 363300 761500 in the search boxes on the home page.

To find out where James Young worked, you would need to find out who his employer was. This isn't necessarily as difficult as it sounds, because the chances are that his cottage came with the job, so all you need to do is find out who owned the cottage.

This information is available in the Valuation Rolls. The late 19th century ones list every house, plus the names of the proprietor, tenant and occupier. The VRs are not available online, so you would need to get someone to have a look on your behalf. There are sets of VRs in the Angus Archives at Forfar and in both the National Archives of Scotland and National Library of Scotland in Edinburgh. To find Leightonhill you must know which parish/district it is in, because the VRs are arranged within parishes/districts.

You (or whoever looks on your behalf) need to find a VR which lists the forester's cottage with James Young as tenant or occupier. If he is the occupier, then the tenant will be his employer; if he is the tenant, then the proprietor will be his employer.

If he was employed by an estate, there may be estate records which mention him, or mention the forest plantations on the estate, and these may also be in the National Archives of Scotland.

Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.