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Chatham Court Marshall
« on: Friday 10 December 10 09:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi Everyone
I am seeking information about the following person:
Samuel BROWNUTT (BROWN/BROWNE/BROWNETT). He was tried on the 30th September 1816 for 'Desertion', and sentenced to 14years, and transported as a convict to Australia in 1817 aboard the 'Lord Eldom' His trade was listed as 'Shoemaker', and he was born in 1788 a native of London. On his Certificate of Freedom in 1830 it notes 'Chatham Court Marshall'.
My main enquiry would be to find out as much information on his 'Military' record and about his trial for desertion.
Can anyone assist me by letting me know if there are any records held for this period. If he was a soldier, then what regiment was he in? If he deserted, then how long was he gone?
How far back do the English Records go back and how do I start to find out about this person.
Hoping someone can help with my enquiry.
Wendy

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Re: Chatham Court Marshall
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 December 10 18:17 GMT (UK) »
I would assume he was a Royal Navy or Royal Marine given he was Court Martialed at Chatham. I would begin your search here.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATID=5999700&CATLN=6&accessmethod=5
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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 December 10 22:57 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the information Seaweed. I am not aware if he was a Marine or Navy man. The only reference I had was on his Certificate of Freedom, which stated the facts I mentioned. His trade was a Shoemaker, and his name offically was BROWNUTT. My next question is: Would any of these records be held outside Kew? I live in Australia and do not have the reources or finances to check things out in England.  Thanks again
Wendy

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Re: Chatham Court Marshall
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 December 10 00:24 GMT (UK) »
As far as I am aware, this records are not available outside of the UK.
You should be able to order this document from Kew.

Hit the ordering and viewing options on the link I posted and ask for a quote. If it is outside of your budget, let me know and I will try and take a look next time I visit.
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Re: Chatham Court Marshall
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14 December 10 07:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi Seaweed
Thanks again for the information. I have submitted my request for an estimate. I hope I gave them enough information. Haven't done this before. They say "You learn something new every day". Well I agree, and must add "It's good to try something new every day".
Will now await the estimate and then let you know what I will do next. It is so easy when you know how.
Wendy

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 December 10 11:32 GMT (UK) »
OK see what they turn up. If you can get hold of the record and he is not there at least we can eliminate him being RN or RM so that leaves him as Army. Assuming of course that his Certificate of Freedom has the correct information.

You say he was transported on the ship LORD ELDOM I suspect this is a typo and the name of the ship was LORD ELDON is this correct?

http://www.archive.org/stream/lloydsregisters16unkngoog#page/n368/mode/2up
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Re: Chatham Court Marshall
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 14 December 10 21:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Seaweed
Yes, you are correct. It was the 'Lord Eldon'. I had made the mistake. I had Eldom in my head from an ancestor born in Warwickshire. Must be a bit more careful when writing things. Sometimes the brain is slower than the typing fingers, or maybe the brain is set in it's ways. Appreciate you letting me know. I would have probably kept using Eldom without thinking. Will let you know when I receive the estimate.
Wendy

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Re: Chatham Court Marshall
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 10 February 15 03:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi Everyone
I am seeking information about the following person:
Samuel BROWNUTT (BROWN/BROWNE/BROWNETT). He was tried on the 30th September 1816 for 'Desertion', and sentenced to 14years, and transported as a convict to Australia in 1817 aboard the 'Lord Eldom' His trade was listed as 'Shoemaker', and he was born in 1788 a native of London. On his Certificate of Freedom in 1830 it notes 'Chatham Court Marshall'.
My main enquiry would be to find out as much information on his 'Military' record and about his trial for desertion.
Can anyone assist me by letting me know if there are any records held for this period. If he was a soldier, then what regiment was he in? If he deserted, then how long was he gone?
How far back do the English Records go back and how do I start to find out about this person.
Hoping someone can help with my enquiry.
Wendy

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Re: Chatham Court Marshall
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 10 February 15 03:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Wendy,
Did you find the Military Records for  Samuel Brownett/Brownult b.1788 in London.  I also have his Certificate of Freedom.
I am doing a family tree for a friend.  I ordered the marriage record of his son Samuel Brownett b.1822.  His son married Mary Jane Thornton 28 Jun 1898 Judge Street Woolloomooloo NSW. Samuel jnr. was a Fisherman.
His son states his father was a Shoemaker.  There is some confusion on Ancestry with another Samuel Browne/Brownett born in Ireland who was a Sailmaker.
Have you found any other information?
Robyn.