Hi Sue,
Many thanks for all this info which I knew some of but certainly not all.
Yes I knew he had children as the ancestor I am tracing back from led me to James Cates born 1852 in England which then led me back to this Surgeon John Cates, Jame Father.
From the 1861 UK census I knew John and Elizabeth were in England with a son William born Marylebone 1833 and daughter Susan born NSW 1844. James was nine at the time and in a Quakers boarding school.
Knew from medical pioneers report that 3 children (boys i think) arrived with him in June 1839 , William would be one, Humphrey would also be one, born on voyage? but dont know the other. Could have been Charles i suppose.
Did not know about George C.
Know he sailed out of Sydney 1850 with 3 boys and a girl, did one stay behind I wonder.
I now need to look at Uk records to try and find Humphrey, George and Charles life stories .
Any further clarification you can give me would help, i take it charles Death is in Australia.
Best regards
Terry